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Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:16 am to
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:16 am to
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Please name one good thing Trump has done for Russia/Putin thus far.

Name anything Trump has done that benefits Russia/Putin, and comes at our expense.

We’ll wait for your answer.




Telling NATO they are dead beats is more than Putin could’ve dreamt of. Not that Trump is wrong.......but no matter WHY.....pee tape or simply conviction of ideology....NATO under stress is a plus for Putin and Russia.

No, Trump hasn’t handed Putin the keys to the Lincoln Memorial......it don’t work that way....but he is the first president to suggest that the NATO alliance is anything other than equal and friendly and universally in lockstep. Again, more than Putin could’ve hoped for.

Also Trump trade policy is good for Putin. Putin makes bank when there is chaos in the world......russia can get fricked but Putin gonna get his. Anything that causes chaos in the world and in the worlds police department....the US....is good for Putin.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5807 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 7:48 am to
Such general, much vagueness.

:doge:
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:10 am to
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Telling NATO they are dead beats is more than Putin could’ve dreamt of. Not that Trump is wrong.......but no matter WHY.....pee tape or simply conviction of ideology....NATO under stress is a plus for Putin and Russia.

No, Trump hasn’t handed Putin the keys to the Lincoln Memorial......it don’t work that way....but he is the first president to suggest that the NATO alliance is anything other than equal and friendly and universally in lockstep. Again, more than Putin could’ve hoped for.

You are talking out your arse.

First of all, Trump has gotten NATO countries to spend MORE on their military and defense.

Only a fricking retard would suggest this is somehow a boon to Russia and Putin.

Second, Trump pointing out that NATO is lined with dead beats and they're all riding the coat tails of the US is overwhelming common knowledge. The only thing Putin did when Trump openly voiced his outrage was go, "shite, now NATO is going to spend more on defense and work harder to be more cohesive."

What an asinine attempt to spin this when it's very obviously the opposite of what you claim.


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Also Trump trade policy is good for Putin. Putin makes bank when there is chaos in the world......russia can get fricked but Putin gonna get his. Anything that causes chaos in the world and in the worlds police department....the US....is good for Putin.

Again, you are talking completely out of your arse.

The Russian stock exchange ( MICEX) was 2,337 in Feb, and it's 2,321 today. And it's been volatile as hell over that period. If you invested in MICEX on Feb. 18th 2018, you would be DOWN nearly 5% today.

That's 7 months smack in the meat of Trump's trade agenda.

Not to mention, the Russian Ruble value to the US dollar has LOST 20% in just the last 6 months, going from 0.175:1 to 0.140:1. Ruble:USD

The Russian economy is contracting and their inflation is rising.

60% of Russia's economy is based on their oil and NG exports, and even with crude oil reaching $77/barrel, they are still only going to hit ~1.6% GDP growth this year. Last year they had the same 1.6% GDP growth. And last year Crude averaged about $50/barrel.

How does oil go up around 50% in value and yet Russia's economy stay stagnant, their stock market drop, and the value of their currency plummet compared to the Dollar?

Here's a clue... Trump's sanctions, strengthening of the US economy, expansion of US oil and NG production and exports, and global trade policies are buttfricking Russia and Putin. That's why.

You have no clue WTF you're talking about.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 10:15 am
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 9/10/18 at 10:18 pm to
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Not that Trump is wrong.......but no matter WHY.....pee tape or simply conviction of ideology....NATO under stress is a plus for Putin and Russia.


So trump being correct under NATO funding regulations is wrong?

Lololol
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5357 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 5:05 am to
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Putin gonna get his


genius

yeah Putin needs Trump to get wealthy. just google "putin, richest man in the world" and see how many articles come up.

"Last year, Hermitage Capital Management CEO Bill Browder told the Senate Judiciary Committee that he believes the Russian president is "the richest man in the world" with a net worth of $200 billion. Browder has some bona fides to back up his Russia connections; the financier's firm was once the largest portfolio investor in Russia.

Celebritynetworth.com has a more conservative estimate: $70 billion, which matches the figure Russian political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky gave the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in 2012. Forbes, the universally accepted source of wealth information, has dubbed the former KGB agent "the world's most powerful person" but does not give an estimate of his net worth."
Posted by NC_Tigah
Member since Sep 2003
125553 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 5:44 am to
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he is the first president to suggest that the NATO alliance is anything other than equal and friendly and universally in lockstep.
But NATO has not been "equal and friendly and universally in lockstep" since Reagan's time.

If the Emperor has no clothes, is it helpful to not point it out?

You think Putin was unaware no one except the US was pulling full load in NATO? You think Putin is somehow well-served by a POTUS forcing NATO members to finally pay their share?
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Putin makes bank when there is chaos in the world......
Putin makes bank when the price of oil rises.

Oil and gas comprise >70% of Russian exports. Russia needs pricing in the >$60/bbl to meet its budget. Putin benefits from any oil price-driver.
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4732 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:05 am to
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Telling NATO they are dead beats

Resulting in NATO members boosting military spending
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