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From my readings (which, of course, may be completely inaccurate - I've never visited South Africa), it is already much, much worse than Detroit.

I've been there and Johannesburg is extremely dangerous. We stayed at the Crowne Plaza by the airport and the British Airways crew got robbed in the freaking parking lot when they went out to smoke.

We were working with South African Airways and went to our host's house for a braai (cookout) and he had guard dogs, a wall with concertina wire and made us wait in the car until the dogs circled the compound and sat at the door - the all clear signal. Nice as hell guy but that was a little scary. All the women were basically prey. Sad, because it has unbelievable natural beauty.

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Posted by Teddy Ruxpin

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Posted on 8/1/18 at 4:52 pm to Tesla

South Africa is tricky because there are signs of the criminality that exists just below the veneer, but I never saw it myself.

I enjoyed Cape Town immensely and had a great time in Franschhoek, where you can grocery shop in their smaller version of Whole Foods, eat 6 course dinners, and crush wine from dozens of vineyards. Many black and white people being friends hanging out and working together.

However, many many homes had some sort of barbed/razor wire around their homes all around Western Cape as we self drove and explored. The vineyard we stayed at had a night guard who stayed all night.

Saw Mitchells Plain township from afar and that looked very rough.

KwaZulu Natal also appears to be a very rough province.

Where tourists go is going to be much safer than those places, like pretty much any country I've been to.

This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 4:58 pm

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