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Pass First Risk
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 7/19/18 at 8:59 pm
Coach O says 50-50 pass-run mix, yet the receiver talent and depth means it could be (effectively) a pass-first offense.
If so, the TAMU-Sumlin experience needs to be kept top of mind. TAMU lacked physicality in the run game, so moving the chains against the tough D's kept their pass success O from being good enough.
Yet OU has a great ability to integrate a pass-heavy O and maintain a physical running attack.
I think Curry (and Ducre)are the big physical move-the-chains backs we have to make those all important short-yardage first downs.
Ok...just bantering, i suppose.
But what are ya'lls thoughts on being more like OU than TAMU?
If so, the TAMU-Sumlin experience needs to be kept top of mind. TAMU lacked physicality in the run game, so moving the chains against the tough D's kept their pass success O from being good enough.
Yet OU has a great ability to integrate a pass-heavy O and maintain a physical running attack.
I think Curry (and Ducre)are the big physical move-the-chains backs we have to make those all important short-yardage first downs.
Ok...just bantering, i suppose.
But what are ya'lls thoughts on being more like OU than TAMU?
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:04 pm to TigerBert
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But what are ya'lls thoughts on being more like OU than TAMU
That goes without saying.
One is a successful program and the other is aTm.
You MUST have a running game in the SEC to succeed.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 9:20 pm to TigerBert
We have very little experience at WR so I wouldn’t say that we are anywhere close to a pass first offense. The most experienced guys aren’t even being mentioned as starters.
Posted on 7/19/18 at 10:17 pm to TigerBert
Well, that ratio is just a starting point. It can take a whole other dimension past that...
Are those passes long hand offs?
Are you sprinkling in enough passes on run downs and runs on pass downs?
From what formation (I'm a believer in the formation and the play being contrary, e.g. run with 4 wide, 4 in routes from 2 TE or bunch set) are you doing each from?
Are the passes dependent on the play called or on reads (by BOTH the QB and WR)? E.g., stiff arse TAMU DB is 12 yds off and S is playing centerfield... do you as the WR audible to a hitch (which turns into a hitch-n-go later). Or do you run the play as called in from the sideline. That's going to affect the number of passes you throw on a series.
And if you have a running QB, a true dual-threat, which we won't this year, that ratio means nothing to me.
In the end the goal should be to get the ball in the hands of your playmakers by a method the defense is not ready for (just one of those isn't good enough a la Fournette vs. Bama) and the space will make itself. If you do that, then the run:pass ratio is simply a measure of which playmaker the opponent fears the most.
Are those passes long hand offs?
Are you sprinkling in enough passes on run downs and runs on pass downs?
From what formation (I'm a believer in the formation and the play being contrary, e.g. run with 4 wide, 4 in routes from 2 TE or bunch set) are you doing each from?
Are the passes dependent on the play called or on reads (by BOTH the QB and WR)? E.g., stiff arse TAMU DB is 12 yds off and S is playing centerfield... do you as the WR audible to a hitch (which turns into a hitch-n-go later). Or do you run the play as called in from the sideline. That's going to affect the number of passes you throw on a series.
And if you have a running QB, a true dual-threat, which we won't this year, that ratio means nothing to me.
In the end the goal should be to get the ball in the hands of your playmakers by a method the defense is not ready for (just one of those isn't good enough a la Fournette vs. Bama) and the space will make itself. If you do that, then the run:pass ratio is simply a measure of which playmaker the opponent fears the most.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 12:58 am to TigerBert
By halftime of the Miami game the Rant will be bitching about our high risk offense.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 1:01 am to TigerBert
Yep, Oklahoma and Clemson are 2 very good benchmarks. Hopefully O and Ensminger are doing their homework.
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