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re: Madison County, MS sheriff's deputy shoots and kills man UPDATE PAGE 9 - Self defense
Posted on 6/10/18 at 12:36 pm to anc
Posted on 6/10/18 at 12:36 pm to anc
quote:
It seems that the guy just don't comply, but if the deputy did not have his lights on or identify himself as the wife says, that's a problem.
I don't know if the story in the OP is absolutely true because of course, it's only from one point of view.
But I will say this. One of the fricking dumbest things I've repeatedly seen and heard people/cops say is shite like, "if he would have just listened" or "if he would have stopped moving"..........Now, yes. I agree with that theory.............but they often say it about someone who has been or is being tazed.
Have any of the people who say this ever been tased? You don't just "stop moving" while you're being tased or even immediately after.
The other absurd one is saying a person who is getting the shite kicked out of them wouldn't "stop moving".
I mean. Ya know. If you just took a boot to the head......freezing isn't exactly the natural response.
But they fricking shoot people over it and then call it justified!
WTF
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:15 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Have any of the people who say this ever been tased? You don't just "stop moving" while you're being tased or even immediately after.
Thats funny because when I was tased I couldn't move at all and once it stopped I followed commands and didn't move.
Once the cycle stops you have full control of your body.
Posted on 6/10/18 at 1:27 pm to ShortyRob
quote:Obviously it's even more ridiculous in an instance where a person was tazed, but I think it's pretty ridiculous overall that any movement is so often interpreted as a life and death movement given how many conditions would need to be met for that to be rational and would require:
But I will say this. One of the fricking dumbest things I've repeatedly seen and heard people/cops say is shite like, "if he would have just listened" or "if he would have stopped moving"..........Now, yes. I agree with that theory.............but they often say it about someone who has been or is being tazed.
Means
A person would need to have a gun, have it on him, have it hidden, and not tell the officer about this hidden gun. Very few people would even meet that condition in the first place, which makes the rest moot, but they would also need:
Motive
Of those that have the means, they would also have to be willingness to murder a police officer, and find that option to be worth the consequences including a likely death or serious injury and somehow not have done it earlier at a more advantageous time. Now we're talking the most evil, desperate, and flat out dumbest group of people alive. A person may be evil and want to kill a cop, but still not desperate and dumb enough to actually do it knowing the consequences. So that leaves us with on last set of conditions:
Ability
So it's not just enough to have a hidden gun, and be evil, stupid, and desperate enough to use it, with a gun aimed at oneself. A person has to also be able to draw the gun quickly, then be able to accurately shoot the gun, and hit a cop in a location that is not protected. So basically someone dumb and desperate has to also be conveniently an expert marksman and in a calm enough state to use that marksmanship.
So basically, in order for the officer's life to be truly at risk for that movement, they have to meet such a ridiculous set of conditions, many of which are contradictory (dumb and desperate, yet a calm expert marksman).
So yeah, let's assume they are meeting all of those conditions, and not making a movement for any number of infinity reasons a person may move as a living species who moves.
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