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re: Medicare will become insolvent in 2026 — three years earlier than previously forecast

Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28604 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:08 pm to
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I see your Progressive Article of Faith and I raise you six unicorns and three tons of fairy dust.

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functioning universal health care

I understand your skepticism, but we as tax payers pay 2x as much per person in the US for equal health care outcomes as are seen in Germany, France, and the UK. We could cut a lot of our healthcare costs if we were better at end of life care (not spending 1/3 of healthcare dollars in the last 3 months of life), had a uniform insurance system (and didn't have administrative costs totaling 1/3 of healthcare spending), and had some decent tort reform.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:12 pm to
Administrative overhead is double that of Medicare at the for profit companies.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22780 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 1:17 pm to
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We could cut a lot of our healthcare costs if we were better at end of life care (not spending 1/3 of healthcare dollars in the last 3 months of life), had a uniform insurance system (and didn't have administrative costs totaling 1/3 of healthcare spending), and had some decent tort reform.


These are good suggestions, with potential for success and rooted in reality.

"A functioning Universal Healthcare System" isn't. Not economically realistic, not logistically realistic, and not politically realistic. A unicorn...as Pimp said.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25986 posts
Posted on 6/6/18 at 2:24 pm to
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I understand your skepticism, but we as tax payers pay 2x as much per person in the US for equal health care outcomes as are seen in Germany, France, and the UK


How much does it cost to have a baby in the UK?
If you've had a kid, did you take a look at the actual bill? I'm sorry, but delivering a baby, and my wife and kid staying at the hospital for 3 days total, shoud'nt cost $30k, even though i only paid $150 with my insurance. WHy are they charging you $50 for 2 Tylenol?
Seriously, how much does it cost the UK gov't to deliver a baby? From what i've read, it's around $3-9K depending on what's going on. That isn't possible in the US. Insurance and the citizen will likely pay near $30k. WHy are they delivering babies for $20k less in the UK?


The problem with our healthcare is no one gives a shite how much going to the doctor costs, b/c none of us actually pay what they are charging. Here's my $20 copay and the insurance pays the other $500.
The idiots that do the charges at these doctors offices frick shite up constantly, but it doesn't matter b/c your insurance company pays them whatever they say.
If people had to actual pay for going to the doctor when they have a cold, and had to fork over $400 for a 2 minute visit just to get a shot or some medicine, they'd suck it up and just go get some Mucinex instead.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/7/18 at 7:44 am to
I like the rest of your post but...

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We could cut a lot of our healthcare costs if we were better at end of life care (not spending 1/3 of healthcare dollars in the last 3 months of life)


You do understand this means rationing and death panels. How do you think people in this country will react to that? We are a people who want the very best, and we want it 5 minutes ago. This won’t end well.
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