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re: Evidence that Common Core is garbage continues to mount

Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:45 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:45 am to
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It's like trying to teach children how to write an essay before you've taught them sentence structure.



It is funny that you bring this up.

Common Core has kids writing sentences in kindergarten and first grade. They are learning how to put thoughts on paper and to create the English language.

The old standard system focused on reading, vocabulary and flash card spelling words that it delayed writing skills for years. At that time, the thought of a foundation of spelling and vocabulary would help the older kids when they started to work on sentences in 2nd and 3rd grade.

Common Core takes the approach that kids will learn how to spell properly through their reading and the normal repetitions through school (think long term like k-5). If kids are too hung up on being perfect, they won't ever get started writing. There will always be words that they don't know how to spell and vocabulary that they haven't used yet. This approach gets them sharing ideas at 5 and 6 years old. And that gets them excited to learn (which hopefully leads to more reading).

The beauty is that Common Core is correct. Vocabulary is learned without rote memorization through consistent usage. And the kids have a huge head start on presenting ideas and thoughts to others with the new approach.

People in general are resistant to change. Some people are resistant to rigor and challenge. Some people can't wait for the next opportunity to run to social media in shock and anger that they taint their perception before being informed.

It is the world that we live in.
Posted by Breesus
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 8:55 am to
I believe you missed the point of my post.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:17 am to
My son can write a sentence but has zero concept of time. He knows the sounds of the letters and can read fairly well. But sometimes forgets letters of the alphabet.

They memorize the days of the week but if you asked him to apply it he struggles because those types of things are glossed over in favor of teaching things that will one day be on a standardized test.

He is finishing up kindergarten with 98% scores in math and English. I spend 1.5 hours with him every night going over his homework. Yet if I ask what he ate for lunch he can't remember.

This post was edited on 5/17/18 at 12:40 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/17/18 at 9:19 am to
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The beauty is that Common Core is correct. Vocabulary is learned without rote memorization through consistent usage. And the kids have a huge head start on presenting ideas and thoughts to others with the new approach.

meh

if kids aren't writing and expressing ideas on their own, then it's their loss. i don't know why we're trying to engineer kids into being top-tier when only a few lucky souls have the intellectual capacity to keep that up

and on another level, you're setting up the lower-level kids to be without even more in the end, b/c they start at an advanced level and then if they don't advance, they're already screwed before they can even learn the basics. think about how terrible this will be long term for the lower level students. we are dooming them
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