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re: SB 435 would allow advanced practice nurses to not work under a physician

Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:36 pm to
Posted by guttata
prairieville
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:36 pm to
So a family practice NP, with 10 years experience and over 20,000 hours of clinical experience in the family practice field doesn’t know the nuances of family practice? Give me a break
Posted by CaptainZappin
Acadiana
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:46 pm to
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So a family practice NP, with 10 years experience and over 20,000 hours of clinical experience in the family practice field doesn’t know the nuances of family practice? Give me a break


It depends on whether they decide to educate themselves or give everyone a Zpak and a medrol dose pak. I don't disagree with the statement about good doctors and bad doctors, but in general, physicians are held to higher standards. Just like someone else said, they (NPs) really don't want to fall under the scope of the LSBME because their standards will go up.

Pass your family practice/internal medicine/OB GYN boards like a physician, and then we will talk.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 12:54 pm to
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So a family practice NP, with 10 years experience and over 20,000 hours of clinical experience in the family practice field doesn’t know the nuances of family practice? Give me a break


They may or they may not. Do you know the answer to that? Or have proof of it?

But if your argument was to have a bill that allowed NPs with 20,000 hours of clinical experience to practice independently then you may have more of an argument. That’s not what this bill says.

So again, you are changing the argument. Your statement has no place in this discussion.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:28 pm to
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So a family practice NP, with 10 years experience and over 20,000 hours of clinical experience in the family practice field doesn’t know the nuances of family practice? Give me a break




Independent hours are useful. Training hours make a big difference in the way care is delivered. If you're talking about 20,000 hours in-office with an MD who looks over the shoulder from time to time and actually reads/signs off on charts, you've got a good argument for someone who, if confident, should be able to go out on their own and practice the Medical Standard of Care as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by Scooby
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 1:32 pm to
I could be the best NP on the planet (I'm not) but in my opinion, I can't say crap about the worst physician on the planet, because I'm not a physician. I may not always agree with how certain physicians do things, but they are still a physician and I'm not. They win that argument and right because of all the training they went through.
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