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re: SB 435 would allow advanced practice nurses to not work under a physician

Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:37 am to
Posted by glaceau
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:37 am to
I honestly do not see the big deal about this bill.
We all know there will be good providers and bad providers both MD or NP.
I think this has the opportunity to increase the opportunities for people to access quality health care quickly in the city and in rural setting.
The most important thing medical, nursing, and allied health need to do is to make sure they stay in their scope of practice and work together.
If an NP who is working independently is concerned about a patient and they don’t know what the hell is going on they need to ask for help and referral another professional. That’s what drs also should do. It’s pretty easy and makes total common sense.
The problem I have noticed when it comes to working together as a team most of the time is the physician. I have worked with numerous physicians who think they know more about drugs than pharmacist, more about nutrition that nutritionist, more about rehab than physical or occupational therapist. We get it. Drs are smart people and they went to school for a long time but nobody knows everything and a collaborative team practice would be the best for the patient.

I think Drs are afraid of this bill because they would lose power over the patient but they forget to realize it isn’t just their patient and several other qualified people are working within their education and scope to better the health of the individual.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15038 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 11:53 am to
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I honestly do not see the big deal about this bill.


Have you read it?


quote:

I think this has the opportunity to increase the opportunities for people to access quality health care quickly in the city and in rural setting.




This bill removes physician oversight of hospital and nursing-home employed nurse practitioners. How does that increase access to care? What nursing homes and hospitals are having shortages at this present time?


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I think Drs are afraid of this bill because they would lose power over the patient but they forget to realize it isn’t just their patient and several other qualified people are working within their education and scope to better the health of the individual.



When talking about patients hospitalized and in nursing homes, you are talking about patients who are significantly more sick than the sniffles that walk through the door. Administrators who make the hires do not have any clinical skills. They see lower costs (to them, to the customer and insurance, the costs are the same (and by some studies, more due to ordering of unnecessary testing...while not well validated, it is also the pervasive anecdotal belief at this time)), cut corners, and patients in these settings are going to suffer.

What is really sad is that there is unfortunately no way to harp on that point without a physician sounding:
1) Financially insecure
2) Overbearing
3) Intellectually insecure


Further, when it comes to the standards people are held to, mid-level providers need to be just that- mid-level. If they want to practice independently, they need to be held to the standard of independent practitioners by the LSBME or new board designed to do just that- neither of which would be provided for by this bill. Otherwise, you allow for a second-tier of care to exist, and that is what the majority, including myself, would like to prevent from happening.
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