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re: Low Recruit Discipline Prompts Army to Redesign Basic Training

Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65064 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:08 pm to
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shoes


Should be leather boots

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not visible


Should be on their heads. When a soldier is outside, head is covered. When indoors, cover comes off.

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when theyre not actually on a battlefield.

Wrong. Head is covered anytime a soldier is outside.

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I also think you meant to say his or her cover

No, I said exactly what I meant to say.

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yes, fleece pullovers are warm

So are snuggies and grandma’s hot coco, buttercup.

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yes, some wearing gloves, some not

That’s ate the frick up.

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yes, if its cold outside, some may choose to wear gloves, others may choose not to

Choose? So I guess the US Army is fricking Burger King now. Just choose whatever you want.
Posted by spaceranger
Member since Jan 2017
1588 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Should be leather boots

seems impractical

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Should be on their heads. When a soldier is outside, head is covered. When indoors, cover comes off.


no battlefield, no care. i do get the whole training to always have it on though

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Wrong. Head is covered anytime a soldier is outside.


unless its not

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No, I said exactly what I meant to say.


you should be more inclusive

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So are snuggies and grandma’s hot coco, buttercup.


not exactly practical for war. it is my grandmas birthday though so thanks for the reminder. also, please dont use pet names. #metoo

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That’s ate the frick up.


huh

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Choose? So I guess the US Army is fricking Burger King now. Just choose whatever you want.


yes, choose. free will and all


Posted by ssgrice
Arizona
Member since Nov 2008
3060 posts
Posted on 2/15/18 at 4:04 pm to
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Wrong. Head is covered anytime a soldier is outside

One slight exception to this is when they are in PT uniform
Other than that to everything you said.
I've been in since Nov '88 (will retire in 2 more years) and the product that has been coming out of Basic sine the early 2000's has been less than stellar. For every great Soldier we get, there 4 others that I would want to send back.
The Suede boot has contributed to the lack of discipline and pride in the uniform. Remember polishing your boots everyday so that you didn't look ATFU? I think the army needs to go back to leather boots, Hell even the new dress shoes don't require much maintenance.
PC has infected the Army in an awful way. The Drill SGTs aren't even allowed to break you down and build you into a Soldier. Be careful what you say, you may have a complaint filed against you for hurt feelings. How are the Drill Instructors supposed to do their job with all the PC BS?
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