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re: Ajit Pai explains net neutrality decision. Mandatory viewer for the misled NN supporters.

Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:29 pm to
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14296 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:29 pm to
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Here's your grain of salt. He was in-house counsel for Verizon.[quote]

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Oh. But's rock solid proof!! Reddit said so!

So let's repeat it 1000 times.

The next original thought these fools have will be their first.


I was just trying to give those on this site who might want to look at all perspectives of an issue (not you, of course) some perspective.
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:30 pm to
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The repeal of net neutrality is a good thing for any major internet company. It's awful for consumers and those who ever had a dream to create a major internet company.



You can always piggyback your online business through Amazon.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85490 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:30 pm to
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You realize Title 2 is one of the worst things to happen if we are wanting new internet companies to get into the market, right?


I understand Title 2 makes it difficult for wired providers to get into the market, yes.

I also understand that is a small price to pay for net neutrality, which has far greater reaching impacts.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40888 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:31 pm to
Its really frightening how they've brainwashed all these millenials into thinking Obama's commie internet scheme is something they can't live without all because it has a nice sounding name.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:37 pm to
Pretty sure that was the first time I posted anything remotely like that.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35021 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:38 pm to
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I also understand that is a small price to pay for net neutrality, which has far greater reaching impacts.




Except, we don't have to pay that price.
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:41 pm to
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StraightCashHomey21
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85490 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:44 pm to
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Except, we don't have to pay that price.


Except, we do, and we will, and we have already. If you think this repeal opens up the door for competition, you're asinine.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35021 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:45 pm to
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Except, we do


No. We don't. A method was proposed in 2014 that avoided Title 2.

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If you think this repeal opens up the door for competition, you're asinine.


If you think the repealed order did either, you're just as asinine.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85490 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:52 pm to
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No. We don't. A method was proposed in 2014 that avoided Title 2.


Point me in the direction of net neutrality without the Title 2 designation. I'd like to read about it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35021 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:54 pm to
house republicans proposed it in 2014. I'm on mobile so I'm not going to go searching for it.

Basically it made it a federal law that ISPs couldn't do the things everyone wants to make sure they don't do. It gave the FCC the authority to enforce those laws. It explicitly said however that they don't have the power to regulate the internet.

Dems shot it down because they wanted that title 2.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85490 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:55 pm to
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Basically it made it a federal law that ISPs couldn't do the things everyone wants to make sure they don't do. It gave the FCC the authority to enforce those laws. It explicitly said however that they don't have the power to regulate the internet. Dems shot it down because they wanted that title 2.


If there is a way to get neutrality without Title 2, I'm for it.
Posted by GoCrazyAuburn
Member since Feb 2010
35021 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 3:59 pm to
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If there is a way to get neutrality without Title 2, I'm for it.


There is. The FCC tried to do it in 2010 but USSC truck it down because they didn't have congressional authority to enforce such rules. So, using that framework, the 2014 proposal was made, with the authority granted to the FCC.

However, the government wants that title 2 control, for obvious reasons, so it was shot down. I'm not saying it will be easy to pass something like that, but if the people are aware of it, we can get it passed. There is enough passion behind this issue, and a solution that all parties (minus the authoritarians) would be happy, that it can be done.
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