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re: If LSU beats Notre Dame, O will be 32-32 as a head coach

Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:02 am to
Posted by GeologyGrad88
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2015
1027 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:02 am to
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Why is that so difficult for people like you to understand that people like me want a head coach that has shown he can run a successful program year end and year out?


What the hell can person are you? You definitely like to point out that "people like me", blah, blah, blah. I guess you are the only kind of person that wants a successful program, huh? Why are people like YOU content to ignore what he did during his interim periods? Sure, he sucked at Ole Miss, but does that mean he didn't learn from his past mistakes? The possibility of going 10-3 in his first year does not seem that bad to me.

And you are also the kind that will point out O's loss to Troy, but say that Saban's losses to UAB or ULM are not the same thing. I also bet that this staff does not give a half a shite that you and your minions have no idea of what his program looks like or any of the remaining laundry list of gripes that you have. Why can't you just support the coach and hope that he succeeds? If it does not pan out, then you can gloat while we are looking for the next coach to lead LSU.

Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:11 am to
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Sure, he sucked at Ole Miss, but does that mean he didn't learn from his past mistakes? The possibility of going 10-3 in his first year does not seem that bad to me.


Why do we have to settle for someone that has to prove himself, as opposed to someone that's demonstrated excellence already? We should be above that as a program.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22172 posts
Posted on 12/5/17 at 10:14 am to
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Why can't you just support the coach and hope that he succeeds? If it does not pan out, then you can gloat while we are looking for the next coach to lead LSU.


Because many people are trying to redefine what success as LSU's head coach means. We fired our last coach for 9-3 type seasons. Now, some people are considering the season a success. The goal posts are constantly moving, and this is why it seems as though some people are constantly "bashing" coach O. Nobody wants him to fail, but there is a group of fans that want to be sure that if he fails LSU takes quick action and does not allow a segment of the fan base to constantly lower expectations so that O meets them just because they like the guy.

We were told that Orgeron was hired because it was believed that he could keep the recruiting classes together and immediately have LSU in playoff contention. It only took 3 weeks into the season and a 30 point loss to Mississippi State for the narrative to change. After that loss the excuses started flying. We were told that we are "too young" and were hampered by Miles' lack of recruiting on the OL. Then we were told that a new OC will take some lumps while implementing their offense.

Now, it looks like we may have a new OC again next year, which is sure to be followed by more excuses. The bar will simply be lowered by some again next year to excuse the head coach because they like the guy.
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