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re: Newest Alabama Poll released tonight: Moore 49 Jones 44
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:00 am to The Spleen
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:00 am to The Spleen
quote:
Moore doesn't have a solution for anything
Tell me Shelby's solution, he's been in DC forever.
I'll help you out on this. This is with anyone in congress.
Spend more money on education.
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:01 am to MrLarson
quote:So his solution is to fire teachers and get rid of students? Alrighty then. And you are incorrect in your assumption that nothing can be done. The county I live in has some of the best schools in the nation.
The same as every other Senator in every state. Nothing much can be done until you can fire shitty teachers and get rid of students that don't want to learn.
quote:This has nothing to do with anything. How did you get this out of me asking what Moore's solution to education in his state?
Please tell me you aren't acting like Alabama is the only state with shitty schools?
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:02 am to DelU249
quote:That's my issue. Single issue voters fricking suck.
Don’t know, but my first instinct is that people voting for him don’t care or that they’re morally bankrupt
Same with people voting for jones.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:08 am to Yak
quote:
Single issue voters fricking suck
Not to me. More often than not it seems to mean they vote in a way that doesn’t benefit my candidate but it doesn’t mean that issue isn’t a big deal because it’s not a priority for me. I don’t care about abortion but people reasonably think it’s murder. I can understand that being a big deal to them.
All of this idealism and people clamoring for more choices but people even within a party are very different and so a candidate who brings those factions under one banner is going to do better. Coalitions. That also means most people are making compromises. That’s life. Making choices. You can’t have it all.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:10 am to The Spleen
quote:
He's simply a rabble rouser that invokes God and Jesus to dupe the ignorant voters in Alabama.
And now you have politicians insulting voters like this
It’s why democrats lost in 2016
Trump: we welcome Bernie voters
Hillary: half of trump voters are huge pieces of shite
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:10 am to MrLarson
quote:
Nothing much can be done until you can fire sh.... teachers and get rid of students who don't want to learn.
This is a vicious cycle. Most new teachers are full of enthusiasm and really want to make a difference.
Within the first year, they're having to deal with endless paperwork, a bloated beauracracy that cares more about covering it own butt from lawsuits than about supporting its teachers, and students who don't want to learn because their parents are too selfish and self-centered to give crap about their children's education.
Within 5 years the teachers get burned out from being high-prices babysitters, and they go into survival mode.
Educational decisions and curriculum need to go back to being done at the local level.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:15 am to DelU249
That's reasonable, but I definitely do not agree.
Single issue voters are simply too emotional and irrational when it comes to actually figuring out what's wrong with their particular state or nation, and will vote lock-step, no matter the final outcome, based on that one single pearl clutching issue that has been indoctrinated into their brains, usually either by faith or family. That is not compromising, IMO...that's being a useful idiot.
Single issue voters are simply too emotional and irrational when it comes to actually figuring out what's wrong with their particular state or nation, and will vote lock-step, no matter the final outcome, based on that one single pearl clutching issue that has been indoctrinated into their brains, usually either by faith or family. That is not compromising, IMO...that's being a useful idiot.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:15 am to HTDawg
quote:
Nobody is surprised the people of Bama would elect a pedophile, and nobody is surprised that stupid hicks on this board celebrate that fact, all while claiming to be Christians. It would be hilarious if it wasn’t so pathetic.
Yeah, weird how they reject leftists. I can’t understand it. I mean... y’all are always so warm and welcoming towards them.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:18 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
This election will be called in Moore's favor within an 1 hour of the polls closing.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:19 am to Yak
quote:
too emotional
I’m not an emotional person but it’s an important component. Too much emotion not good. A complete absence of emotion...also not good
Now what stimuli evokes an emotion...joe biden’s They’re going to put you back in chains rubs me the wrong way. That’s one example and not party specific but it’s to point out that candidates introduce emotional components more often than voters do.
Voters are reactionary. They listen and decide. So if you don’t like the emotional component then you’re problem isn’t with voters
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:27 am to DelU249
quote:I mean, it's the same thing as 'they gonna take your guns'...single issue voters are a huge swath of America. There's a reason why they say things like this. Low hanging fruit, etc.
Now what stimuli evokes an emotion...joe biden’s They’re going to put you back in chains rubs me the wrong way.
I would much prefer we just fix our shite, and from what I gathered in regards to my original question about education, there doesn't seem to be one from Moore. I'll have to google more on his stances.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:32 am to Yak
quote:
there doesn't seem to be one from Moore. I'll have to google more on his stances.
quote:
Education
The federal government should not hamper the educational systems of the states as there is no authority for federal involvement under the Constitution.
Programs like "Common Core" should be eliminated, and the development of educational programs returned to the people under state authority.
Competition between the states and freedom of various educational structures should be available to parents who are charged with the responsibility to teach their children.
Charter schools, vouchers, tax credits, home schooling, Christian schools, and technical training should be encouraged.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:37 am to MrLarson
quote:
Programs like "Common Core" should be eliminated, and the development of educational programs returned to the people under state authority.
Common Core was developed under state authority.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 10:46 am to MrLarson
quote:But Charter Schools should be encouraged?
The federal government should not hamper the educational systems of the states as there is no authority for federal involvement under the Constitution.
quote:Common Core is a state issue, so that doesn't really mean anything.
Programs like "Common Core" should be eliminated, and the development of educational programs returned to the people under state authority.
quote:They already are.
Competition between the states and freedom of various educational structures should be available to parents who are charged with the responsibility to teach their children.
quote:Well, duh.
Charter schools, vouchers, tax credits, home schooling, Christian schools, and technical training should be encouraged.
None of this actually tells us what can be done to fix Alabama education.
Not trying to give you shite, by the way, just responding to his views.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:02 am to Yak
quote:
it's the same thing as 'they gonna take your guns'.
It depends. If someone points to an Australian gun ban as a positive, i would question how genuine they’re being when they say “it’s only this” front page of TIME magazine years ago...get rid of every single one.
But definitely the way it’s phrased. Now, hey first it’s this, but they won’t stop there because if that’s a legislator’s primary issue, it’s not going to stop being their issue. There are no shortage of republican equivalents though. It’s just that there’s been a real paradigm shift from the 80s and 90s to now. The left more than the right is now the one making elections a measure of moral fiber. The bush years had a lot of “they hate America and they side with the terrorists” rhetoric from republicans that matches what I’m saying. Bush “you’re either with us or with the terrorists” but like I said, the dynamics have really flipped.
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:09 am to The Spleen
quote:
Common Core was developed under state authority.
That is technically correct but misleading. It was a conglomerate of states implementing an international education system.
Then this
quote:
Although Common Core is voluntary, the federal government has had a role in encouraging states to adopt the standards.
States earned the equivalent of extra points in the competition for grants from Race to the Top, Obama’s signature education program, if they had adopted standards to prepare students for college and work. They didn't have to adopt Common Core, but they were better positioned for federal money if they did.
LINK
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:10 am to Yak
I don’t know shite about Moore other than he’s the latest to run in an election where the democrats have made the choice a litmus year to determine the moral quality of voters
Louisiana
Montana
Alabama
And obviously the presidential election.
The overwhelmingly liberal media has played the biggest part in that. And i think it is counterproductive for democrats because of the resentment towards thought policing, virtue signaling and excessive over the top political correctness
Louisiana
Montana
Alabama
And obviously the presidential election.
The overwhelmingly liberal media has played the biggest part in that. And i think it is counterproductive for democrats because of the resentment towards thought policing, virtue signaling and excessive over the top political correctness
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:13 am to DelU249
quote:100% agree
The overwhelmingly liberal media has played the biggest part in that. And i think it is counterproductive for democrats because of the resentment towards thought policing, virtue signaling and excessive over the top political correctness
ETA: I just want to fix our shite. I want compromise. I want our government to be functional. We have to fix this at the local level and work up from there. This is really the only solution. If I can make people actually look at their public servants and read the stances on BOTH sides, and not fall back to the same old shite, then I consider that a win.
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:34 am to OMLandshark
quote:I think she's more than competent. I would say that she's outrageously corrupt...at best, she doesn't seem to give a shite about public faith in institutions otherwise she would have done things differently with the Clinton foundation, emails and maybe would have give a shite ton fewer speeches for big money.
she was outrageously incompetent
quote:it's true, but that's a tough argument to make for any candidate, but 30 years in DC, and she really doesn't have anything to hang her hat on. I said Obamacare was a double edged sword. not only were premiums way up making it unpopular, Obama stole her defining issue she spent her whole career attaching to her name.
I challenged Hillary supporters during the election to give me a single thing she’s done that would make for a good President
quote:making billions in real estate suggests a high level of competence. I would say that for anyone running a business that successful that isn't some tech startup. Bill Gates whom I do not particularly like...is qualified...and so on. mark Zuckerberg...not so much.
Trump supporters could name actions he’s done without a meaningless title
quote:the core truths of ad marketing have not and will not change. trump is an ad marketing genius and in 2017 advertising and marketing is a lost art because people rely more on focus groups and polls so it's easy to lose sight of the basics.
he may be the greatest brander and media player who ever lived
then there is the way he herds the media and his opponents into the direction he wants with a vague but generally true statement, exaggeration, slight mischaracterization, etc. he gets them to focus on the issue or narrative he wants...and they fall for it every single time
I can't believe how they have not caught on...maybe they have and it's compulsive. Posted on 11/28/17 at 11:39 am to Yak
quote:but my point is it is not voters doing that. I would guess a lot of voters are trying to send the powers that be the same message by voting for moore. hey, stop with the bullshite.
ETA: I just want to fix our shite. I want compromise. I want our government to be functional. We have to fix this at the local level and work up from there. This is really the only solution. If I can make people actually look at their public servants and read the stances on BOTH sides, and not fall back to the same old shite, then I consider that a win.
it also has the added effect of making polls useless because people just shut up, and they tune out because frick you assholes for saying i'm a racist or moral degenerate or stupid or whatever, i'm going to vote for him just because you did that.
and I can tell you that's exactly what my wife (a liberal who up to that point refused to vote) and I did.
oh we're privileged for being white? oh we're stupid because we would potentially vote for him, we're racist, we're morally bankrupt...all right, I wasn't going to vote but I sure as shite am now.
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