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re: Conservative Christians rally around persecuted Judge Roy Moore

Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:42 pm to
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It is safer that government stay out of religion as much as possible. For the Gvt and for the religions too.

You never know how it will end up
If government isn't forcing anyone to believe a certain way or to worship a deity (or anything) against their conscience, I don't see why we can't allow for history and culture to be involved when it comes to religion. No one is being hurt by acknowledging that the 10 commandments have influenced our rule of law or that our country was founded by men who formed a government with the understanding that a higher power has given us rights that should not be stepped on. If most of the people in this country are Christian and their representatives are Christian and those representatives want to pray or those citizens want to pray (during a football game or otherwise), so long as they are not coercing others to do the same they should be allowed to do that.

When we err we should err on the side of freedom, not oppression. It's not oppressive to anyone if I pray. It's oppressive to me to prevent me from praying. That's how the government acts now: get God out of the public square and damn the religious folk who want Him there.

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In Chicago a few years back they were finally going to allow churches to run charter schools. The first to hand in an absolutely by the book perfect plan was a school to be run by Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

Then all of a sudden the Ministers who wanted all these religious schools had second thoughts!

It's just one example of how you never know how things will boomerang in this area.
The problem with freedom is that people are free to do things we don't like. That extends well beyond religion.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:20 am to
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If government isn't forcing anyone to believe a certain way or to worship a deity (or anything) against their conscience, I don't see why we can't allow for history and culture to be involved when it comes to religion. No one is being hurt by acknowledging that the 10 commandments have influenced our rule of law or that our country was founded by men who formed a government with the understanding that a higher power has given us rights that should not be stepped on. If most of the people in this country are Christian and their representatives are Christian and those representatives want to pray or those citizens want to pray (during a football game or otherwise), so long as they are not coercing others to do the same they should be allowed to do that.


Tell you what. We will put up references to the Bible right alongside references to the Quran. Maybe we can throw in an "in Allah we Trust" on the $2 bill. Should be no problem according to your interpretation of the constitution.
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