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re: ULM Student Accused of Rape
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:18 pm to NoHoTiger
Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:18 pm to NoHoTiger
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I think some people, myself included, view all sexual misconduct allegations, including rape, through a skeptical lens - as they should.
This one seems pretty cut and dry though, so y'all are applying skepticism to seemingly the wrong case.
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. If someone grabs my arse, I don't view that as sexual assault, some do
If it's unwanted, it probably is.
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If someone asks me out and I say no, that's not harassment. That's me declining a date
Never heard this before. If someone claimed this as harrasment they'd be a clown.
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Why the question of why she didn't leave needs to be asked.
It serves no purpose but to put responsibility on the victim.
it's not some random guy she felt she needed to run from, it was a close friend that I'm sure she felt would stop, but didn't. quote:
Why did she wait to seek treatment or contact the police?
It said she told her parents and counselors within 1-3 weeks. I'm not going to really question the time table of someone who was raped by a close friend they've known forever. I could only imagine the conflicting thoughts that ran through her head.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 12:31 pm to TH03
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This one seems pretty cut and dry though, so y'all are applying skepticism to seemingly the wrong case.
ALL cases need to viewed skeptically. Even the ones that seem to be open and shut or cut and dry.
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If it's unwanted, it probably is.
This is where we disagree. And this is the crux of the problem. The IFs. I can handle someone touching me, even if it's unwanted. Some people can't. And some people need to be the victim.
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It serves no purpose but to put responsibility on the victim.
I disagree. It gives you a glimpse into how they got from a movie and chilling to a rape accusation. Those two things seem diametrically opposed. Maybe this is a pattern of behavior for him. Maybe he misunderstood her cues. There's a whole of IFs and MAYBEs.
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It said she told her parents and counselors within 1-3 weeks. I'm not going to really question the time table of someone who was raped by a close friend they've known forever. I could only imagine the conflicting thoughts that ran through her head.
Probably. But, probably isn't good enough. If you're going to accuse a guy of rape and he's going to jail for a long time, then all of the information needs to be available.
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