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re: Vision, philosophy, and planning for a HC

Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24558 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 12:54 pm to
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Go ahead, keep trying to make all of these comparison between Orgeron and proven successful coaches. Keep thinking that's helping you make your point.


I wasn't using them to make a point other than how stupid your argument is.

Do you deny that Saban and his "bible" hired a "West Coast" offensive guy in Kiffin?

Do you deny that 3-time superbowl champion Joe Gibbs admits to stealing plays from Nebraska that defined his career and success?

What did their "bible" say when they went in entirely different directions than what it had said all of their previous years of coaching?

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All of those coaches had philosophies and incorporated other elements to adapt to the times.


I thought you said they had a "bible" and stuck to it. Is it okay for them to change but not Coach Eaux? That was the point of your earlier post about the "bible", REMEMBER?

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Did you even watch Bama last year?


Yes I did. I saw that they were 15th in scoring offense and 34th in total offense with Kiffin as the OC. They weren't totally dependent on defense.

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Saban's prints were all over that offense.


Yeah, that's why he berated himself on the sidelines every time the offense had a boneheaded play.

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There was a memorable meltdown on the Alabama sideline for the second time this season.

Late in the Crimson Tide's 38-10 defeat of Western Kentucky, coach Nick Saban let loose on offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin, who has been the subject of previous Saban tirades during his three years on the job.

Saban on his late sideline blowup at Kiffin: "There are no arguments. Those are called arse-chewings."





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Nick Saban went crazy on the sidelines and chewed out Lane Kiffin at the end of Saturday's win over Western Kentucky. Alabama was up 38-3 with 2:10 left and the game was essentially over,...


Ha Ha Ha !!!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/29/17 at 1:06 pm to
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All of those coaches had philosophies and incorporated other elements to adapt to the times


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I thought you said they had a "bible" and stuck to it. Is it okay for them to change but not Coach Eaux? That was the point of your earlier post about the "bible", REMEMBER?


The point is they have a vision of what they want to do in the first place and they add wrinkles to it. No one even knows what Orgeron's base philosophy is. He doesn't even know because he doesn't have one.

Everyone knows what a Saban offense looks like. Everyone knows what a Joe Gibbs offense looks like.

No one knows what an Orgeron offense looks like because at OM he wanted one thing, a USC-like offense with a Reggie Bush type of back. He came here and said he wanted a spread offense, then he goes and hires Matt Canada. There's zero continuity between any of those ideas.
This post was edited on 9/29/17 at 1:08 pm
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