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re: Great article about depth issues..orgeron is definitely facing a challenge..

Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by INFIDEL
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:10 pm to
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Makes a lot of sense. Goes to show you its more of a "rebuild" type of job for O than people want to admit. I see people often say that the reason they hired O was to avoid rebuilding but how do you explain these numbers? How can you not say we have a lot of rebuilding before we can really consider us a contender again?


O wasn't hired to rebuild. He was hired to maintain. It's how everyone justified hiring a proven loser. Now it appears their CEO will actually have to be a real head coach and shits getting real.

How does one build a championship program when his only marketable quality is "I learned my lesson last time" and "I'll hire really good coordinators and I won't touch anything"??
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1791 posts
Posted on 9/21/17 at 10:25 pm to
Oh ok, you talked to Alleva? That's what he told you? How in the world would you know that's the reason he was hired. That just sounds retarded to say a coach was hired to maintain a mediocre team. They could have kept Miles if that's what they wanted to do. I'll be the first to say that I didn't want coach O as the head man, but he is, so I'll get behind him. To answer your question, recruiting is how you turn the program around first of all. If you actually read the article, you would see how much of a dumpster fire Miles really left the program in. Who's to say that O can rebuild this program? No one knows, but lets hope he can. At least give the man a chance and stop calling for his firing after one game.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 11:34 am to
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How does one build a championship program when his only marketable quality


His most marketable quality throughout his career has been his ability to recruit. That seems like the ideal quality for rebuilding. Even though he didn't get to stick around at Ole Miss long enough to realize the benefits, Orgeron's recruiting is what gave Houston Nutt the talent available to win a lot in his first couple of years at Ole Miss.

Even if he repeats exactly what he did at Ole Miss, he'll still have helped fix what was a badly broken program by leaving a stable of talent for his replacement.
This post was edited on 9/22/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:05 pm to
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O wasn't hired to rebuild. He was hired to maintain. It's how everyone justified hiring a proven loser.


He was hired to maintain the 2017 commits and try to avoid a mass exodus of recruits, which he largely did. Our problem is by the end of the year, probably all of those recruits (except Narcisse) will have had to play significant snaps
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9222 posts
Posted on 9/22/17 at 12:19 pm to
Shits getting real for the idiots on this board who think we have the players across the board to hang with the big boys. We don't but if he's any kind of HC he can keep this thing together help the young guys grow and compete this year. They will all have to do a better job. I think they know what they have now and will play better knowing that they have to play sound football to complete. There will be mistakes along the way but good coaches find a way to at least keep things close and out smart the other coaches. Let's see what we have.
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