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re: Question Regarding Black Unemployment
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:41 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:41 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
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very interesting discussion and you posted good materials to consider. I would like to hear more about why/how you view affirmative action and unemployment to be so connected.
I will probably make another thread based more on job distribution of minorities (as that is a very extensive topic).
But fun fact, Blacks that move from the North to the South typically have better job opportunities.
Reverse Migration - More Blacks moving South for Employment
I think affirmative action, at best, only provides minimal advancements for Blacks. For the most part, jobs rely more heavily on networking with personal connections rather than supplemental programs.
To be honest, I wish we could do away with affirmative action. But I think we need to honestly address the root cause of some of these hiring practices first.
It could be argued (just playing devil's advocate) that the removal of AA would not directly improve Black unemployment. A prevalent bias against Blacks would not just disappear with a legal action as history has shown.
If anything, you could put professional Blacks (those who are smart, hard working, etc.) in the most danger. They have to deal with perceived racism on top of work place bias. Meanwhile the "Dindu" blacks are not effected at all, since they were living on welfare or charity cases anyway.
again, devil's advocate, you can always dispute me.
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:44 pm to volod
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To be honest, I wish we could do away with affirmative action.
The biggest problem with AA and it's diseased cousin, Hate Crime legislation is that it reinforces this notion that blacks are weak, inferior and need special protections.
All that is needed is equal protection under the law. Anything else is a caste system.
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If anything, you could put professional Blacks (those who are smart, hard working, etc.) in the most danger.
Black professionals in the middle class have more in common with whites than those living in what is widely perceived as black urban culture.
There I said it.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 9/20/17 at 5:46 pm to volod
In all seriousness i have sat on hiring boards both public side and industry side and i have never been instructed to take race into consideration in any way shape or form. Ive never seen a black person denied a job nor have i seen one favored for one because of their race.
I think this whole thing has very narrow applications and is wayyy over blown. It gives people an excuse to not take responsibility when they get passed over.
In my career i have focused on education, training, and kicking arse and im doing fairly well. Not where i want to be yet but way ahead of schedule for most...
I think this whole thing has very narrow applications and is wayyy over blown. It gives people an excuse to not take responsibility when they get passed over.
In my career i have focused on education, training, and kicking arse and im doing fairly well. Not where i want to be yet but way ahead of schedule for most...
Posted on 9/22/17 at 2:43 pm to volod
"It could be argued (just playing devil's advocate) that the removal of AA would not directly improve Black unemployment"
I suspect it would not result in much change at all in the Black UE rate. Unlike decades ago, anti-black bias is rarer (though still extant) and affirmative action only applies in certain areas anyway (government contracting, some government jobs, etc.). Although I don't think affirmative action is a good idea for the country long term - potentially sowing seeds of discord - it is not an issue I care deeply about because I believe it does relatively little harm.
I suspect it would not result in much change at all in the Black UE rate. Unlike decades ago, anti-black bias is rarer (though still extant) and affirmative action only applies in certain areas anyway (government contracting, some government jobs, etc.). Although I don't think affirmative action is a good idea for the country long term - potentially sowing seeds of discord - it is not an issue I care deeply about because I believe it does relatively little harm.
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