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re: Baylor University Survey On Religion: 'Almost No Atheists Voted For Trump'

Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 3:11 pm to
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For starters, I'm a fan of keeping religion and politics as separate as possible.
Me too. I just assign no special significance to it because it's not that different from other mythical "authorities".

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I don't.
Yeah. OK.

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Volume and human history don't align to that view. Either way, one being true doesn't absolve the other of anything. Comparing religious views to equalitarianism is also just a bit silly.
It was an example. The point being, people often say we "should do A because of B concept". I don't give a frick about B concept. Whether it's religion or anything else. I only care about A. I evaluate A.

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Not by me.
Me either. The point is simply that it is used. I wasn't arguing against you. I was merely pointing out that religion isn't particularly unusual in terms of people using THEIR authority to validate their ideas.
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I really don't care WHY people think a thing. Maybe not. Most of the board does.

Most people do. And, it is a significant failing.

For example. If you hold a view that I agree with and you push for an idea I agree with, I really don't give a flying frick if HOW you arrived at the conclusion is different than mine.

We spend WAY too much time in America trying to assess motivations which is dumb because it's a fool's errand and, it really doesn't matter.

Is the idea good or bad? I really don't care if someone has "good" reasons for a shitty idea or "bad" reasons for a great idea.

I care about the idea.

If I could wave a wand over America and do ONE thing, it would be to get people to stop the bull shite of trying to see into people's heads and assign motives.

EVALUATE IDEAS!
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/19/17 at 4:20 pm to
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Me too. I just assign no special significance to it because it's not that different from other mythical "authorities".


It's quite different. Regardless, there's no reason to allow one over another.

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Yeah. OK.


I don't require your affirmation.

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It was an example


It wasn't a very good example.

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I was merely pointing out that religion isn't particularly unusual in terms of people using THEIR authority to validate their ideas.


The outcome is different, and that's the issue.

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trying to see into people's heads and assign motives


Many in this thread eagerly admit that there's a somewhat popular text that maps out their motives. I don't really care about their motives. My goal is to eliminate influence derived from their motives. Outcomes are my concern.
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