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re: Historical monuments okay or not
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:44 pm to WheelRoute
Posted on 8/15/17 at 1:44 pm to WheelRoute
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Well this simply isn't correct at all. Slavery wasn't "normal" in the U.S. and had reached a tipping point by the time of the war.
Why put a limit on where it was normal?on a macro scale, It was normal world wide at the time and practiced in plenty of areas. On a micro scale, if was common in the south as it was still the primary source of agriculture. The industrialization of agricultural would have ended slavery with or without the Civil War.
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You got it backwards. It's helping the white community.
Elaborate please.
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Do you believe it's possible to separate the two?
Absolutely. Can the anti monument people separate the two? You can immortalize generals such as Robert e lee based on his character and his military accomplishments and not immortalize his tacit support of the institution of slavery. After all, in every first hand account I've read on both the union and confederate side, Lee was respected and thought highly of. Post war memoirs as well as pre war memoirs state as such.
If the men who fought general lee can separate the two, why can't we? Tearing down statues of men you don't agree with based on today's moral standards is wrong.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:26 pm to beerJeep
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Absolutely. Can the anti monument people separate the two? You can immortalize generals such as Robert e lee based on his character and his military accomplishments and not immortalize his tacit support of the institution of slavery. After all, in every first hand account I've read on both the union and confederate side, Lee was respected and thought highly of. Post war memoirs as well as pre war memoirs state as such.
Lee used his military mind to commit treason. And the statues of him are memorializing that treason by showing him in confederate regalia. Some sins loom larger than any achievement. Treason is one.
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Tearing down statues of men you don't agree with based on today's moral standards is wrong.
Treason is not "today's moral standard." It has always been a grave sin.
Posted on 8/15/17 at 2:45 pm to beerJeep
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You can immortalize generals such as Robert e lee based on his character and his military accomplishments
Character: He was a traitor who participated in a slaveholders' rebellion against his country.
Military accomplishments: He lost his rebellion.
Uhhhhhh.....
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