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Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:45 am to PanhandleTigah
The point is Kasich is going to challenge a sitting President. The reason the poll is concerning is because if Trump does slip at an importuned time Kasich may be only player in the field. In other words, Kasich is enough of a threat to get this boards blood boiling because he probably has 20-25% in a one on one primary fight with Trump right now.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 9:47 am
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:46 am to Rakim
And Jeb has them both beat by 1000%
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:48 am to Rakim
Seriously who pays for this shite?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:49 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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Ted Cruz stayed in.
Holy strawman, batman.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:50 am to MrLarson
You brought that up.
See.
quote:
rest of the candidates w/o a shot
See.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:53 am to DisplacedBuckeye
If Rubio doesn't? run then the GOP isn't trying to primary Trump.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:53 am to Rakim
quote:
Kasich is enough of a threat to get this boards blood boiling because he probably has 20-25% in a one on one primary fight with Trump right now.
Please name the states Kasich would win
He would win no southern states at all. He would not win any rust belt states except maybe Ohio.
He might win liberal northeast states like Vermont and New Hampshire.
Fact of the matter is he won't win Iowa. Then New Hampshire let's say he wins, but then he loses South Carolina and Nevada and gets trounced on Super Tuesday. Then he loses Kentucky, Kansas, Louisiana the next Saturday. It's all over from there.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:56 am to DisplacedBuckeye
A 3 and a half year fricking presidential campaign
It isn't even a matter of supporting trump, the array of assholes against him gets more disgusting every day
What trump should do is tell his supporters to answer all questions anti-trump, rendering this shite more useless than it already is
It isn't even a matter of supporting trump, the array of assholes against him gets more disgusting every day
What trump should do is tell his supporters to answer all questions anti-trump, rendering this shite more useless than it already is
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:58 am to Rakim
Good god. Give it up nevertrumper.
You are becoming worse than asurb's "i am a Republican ". Trump is the president and kasich is a liberal hack hiding in the gop to get elected in his state.
You are becoming worse than asurb's "i am a Republican ". Trump is the president and kasich is a liberal hack hiding in the gop to get elected in his state.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 9:59 am to goldennugget
The yellow states are where Trump is currently having base issues and I left off Texas. Kasich would win NH and Ohio possibly if he ran today. If the party sees Trump hovering around 30% in 2020 you don't think he can be challenged?
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:01 am to Jjdoc
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Good god. Give it up nevertrumper.
You are becoming worse than asurb's "i am a Republican ". Trump is the president and kasich is a liberal hack hiding in the gop to get elected in his state.
I give unpopular opinions but again if Trump is around 30% in 2020 and nobody jumps in but Kasich then you know he would score a few points at a minimum. Why is that hard to admit?
Whose even saying Kasich could win? I'm pointing out Trump isn't god just look at his numbers? Virginia would be a tough place for Trump to win in 2020.
This post was edited on 8/8/17 at 10:04 am
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:01 am to Rakim
quote:
Kasich
He's just in it for the food
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:04 am to idlewatcher
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I really wonder if he is ready for the grind once again. He just couldn't get ANY traction outside of his home state.
FIFY
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:04 am to Damone
That is disgusting... Also Trump would probably love beating the shite out of Kasich just to warm up for general.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:06 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:That just makes him the 14th loser in a 17 person race!
He came in 4th in a 17-person race.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:08 am to Rakim
Trump was the first Republican in forever to win PA, MI and WI and came damn close to winning MN and you think he is having base issues there? He won the Nevada primary by a landslide and you think that state is an issue for him?
You need to look at it this way. You have the west coast states highlighted but those states are at the end of the primary process and it will be decided by then. Colorado is a ballot delegate state so the NeverTrump crowd might have a foothold there. Utah didn't matter last time.
It goes like this:
Iowa - Easy Trump win
New Hampshire - Who knows but for your argument lets say Kasich wins
South Carolina - Easy Trump win
Nevada - Easy Trump win
So Kasich is down 3-1 going into Super Tuesday which consists of
Oklahoma - Easy Trump win
Texas - Easy Trump win
Arkansas - Easy Trump win
Alabama - Easy Trump win
Tennessee - Easy Trump win
Georgia - Easy Trump win
Minnesota - Easy Trump win
Lets go ahead and give Kasich Vermont, Massachusetts, Alaska and Virginia.
So Trump is up 10-5 after the first 15 states. You think the Kasich backers will continue to throw money his way? Let's say they do. Next 4 states up are Louisiana, Kansas, Maine and Kentucky. Trump will win 3 of those 4. Trump is now up 13-6.
Next 4 states are Hawaii, Idaho, Mississippi and Michigan. 4 more Trump states. Trump is now up 17-6. Does Kasich stay in like he did last time for Ohio? Let's say he does. Trump wins Florida, Illinois, Missouri and North Carolina and Kasich wins Ohio. Scoreboard is now 21-7. Math says Kasich can't win.
You need to look at it this way. You have the west coast states highlighted but those states are at the end of the primary process and it will be decided by then. Colorado is a ballot delegate state so the NeverTrump crowd might have a foothold there. Utah didn't matter last time.
It goes like this:
Iowa - Easy Trump win
New Hampshire - Who knows but for your argument lets say Kasich wins
South Carolina - Easy Trump win
Nevada - Easy Trump win
So Kasich is down 3-1 going into Super Tuesday which consists of
Oklahoma - Easy Trump win
Texas - Easy Trump win
Arkansas - Easy Trump win
Alabama - Easy Trump win
Tennessee - Easy Trump win
Georgia - Easy Trump win
Minnesota - Easy Trump win
Lets go ahead and give Kasich Vermont, Massachusetts, Alaska and Virginia.
So Trump is up 10-5 after the first 15 states. You think the Kasich backers will continue to throw money his way? Let's say they do. Next 4 states up are Louisiana, Kansas, Maine and Kentucky. Trump will win 3 of those 4. Trump is now up 13-6.
Next 4 states are Hawaii, Idaho, Mississippi and Michigan. 4 more Trump states. Trump is now up 17-6. Does Kasich stay in like he did last time for Ohio? Let's say he does. Trump wins Florida, Illinois, Missouri and North Carolina and Kasich wins Ohio. Scoreboard is now 21-7. Math says Kasich can't win.
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:10 am to goldennugget
Nevada where Heller is doomed???
Posted on 8/8/17 at 10:10 am to goldennugget
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Math says Kasich can't win.
"I am the only candidate who can beat Hillary Clinton"
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