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re: have job titles always been so out of control?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:47 am to mdomingue
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:47 am to mdomingue
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Even in the oil field. In times gone by, there used to be roustabouts that worked in production. You would be hard pressed to find any at a facility operated by a major or even a large independent. The have people who do the same things, they're just called operator 4s or some such title indicate the lowest level operator (who is actually a roustabout) qualified mostly to carry a bucket and pick up trash.
I actually saw it happen at a facility I was consulting in. Eliminated the roustabout position/created a new level operator position. Re-titled several guys. Those guys felt like they got a promotion even though their job description was identical and their pay the same.
Not really bad in that case, The VP and director titles have gotten silly.
I once worked at an engineering firm where we had 5 senior lead civil/structural designers (including myself) and two junior guys. What that meant was that the senior leads were all handling small projects by themselves (I had 3 going all at once, one of them babysitting a huge Exxon project) and we'd get help from the junior guys when we needed it.
Posted on 7/24/17 at 10:15 am to Godfather1
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I once worked at an engineering firm where we had 5 senior lead civil/structural designers (including myself) and two junior guys. What that meant was that the senior leads were all handling small projects by themselves (I had 3 going all at once, one of them babysitting a huge Exxon project) and we'd get help from the junior guys when we needed it.
I've worked at engineering consulting firms since late 1989. The dynamics there are primarily driven by 2 things.
First and foremost, the ability to bill at a higher rate, particularly for people in demand.
Second, the ability to quantify employee pay based on their title and tying that to years in the industry or out of school while making exceptions when needed for exceptional ability/drive.
Reason 1 tends to trump all else so sometimes rule 2 is ignored completely in order to bill more. Larger companies are often more rigid so reason 2 gives rise to the practice of managers moving guys into the next title as early as possible. Also, larger companies often tie industry pay averages to employee pay based on title and years.
Once we get to management, even with consulting firms that are larger with multiple locations, it can still get out of had. I think a lot of it is ego stroking.
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