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re: have job titles always been so out of control?
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:08 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:This is not new and has been going on for some time.
there are 5 VPs in my ~60 person department. seems excessive IYAM.
Even in the oil field. In times gone by, there used to be roustabouts that worked in production. You would be hard pressed to find any at a facility operated by a major or even a large independent. The have people who do the same things, they're just called operator 4s or some such title indicate the lowest level operator (who is actually a roustabout) qualified mostly to carry a bucket and pick up trash.
I actually saw it happen at a facility I was consulting in. Eliminated the roustabout position/created a new level operator position. Re-titled several guys. Those guys felt like they got a promotion even though their job description was identical and their pay the same.
Not really bad in that case, The VP and director titles have gotten silly.
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Posted on 7/24/17 at 9:47 am to mdomingue
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Even in the oil field. In times gone by, there used to be roustabouts that worked in production. You would be hard pressed to find any at a facility operated by a major or even a large independent. The have people who do the same things, they're just called operator 4s or some such title indicate the lowest level operator (who is actually a roustabout) qualified mostly to carry a bucket and pick up trash.
I actually saw it happen at a facility I was consulting in. Eliminated the roustabout position/created a new level operator position. Re-titled several guys. Those guys felt like they got a promotion even though their job description was identical and their pay the same.
Not really bad in that case, The VP and director titles have gotten silly.
I once worked at an engineering firm where we had 5 senior lead civil/structural designers (including myself) and two junior guys. What that meant was that the senior leads were all handling small projects by themselves (I had 3 going all at once, one of them babysitting a huge Exxon project) and we'd get help from the junior guys when we needed it.
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