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re: Frank Jackson Highlights: This is How We Do It
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:17 am to TigerinATL
Posted on 6/23/17 at 11:17 am to TigerinATL
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It is PR bullshite, but like you said, it's a good strategy they should have started 4 years ago. If this is truly a market inefficiency Demps has discovered, will he be around long enough to see it pay off?
I wouldn't necessarily say it is PR bullshite. Pels have not directly tried to sell the narrative that these guys are proxy 1st rounders for the following year, they just see it that way because of the redshirt year both need. Both were top 25 recruits, both were McDonalds All Americans, both disappointed their freshman year, both are raw talents with upside, and both would have projected as 1st rounders had they stayed in school.
I don't think it is a market inefficiency, but rather a worthwhile gamble at the top of the 2nd round. Second rounders that turn into anything are rare so go for the homerun. Great tools that you believe were not fully utilized in college and you hope to develop. Using second rounders means if they don't pan out, no big deal. They get 3 year slightly above minimum deals. You have 3 years to develop them and turn them into at minmimum role players with their rookie year being a redshirt. If they show as decent role players, you re-sign them (age 22) to a reasonable deal and try to take them to the next level on the next contract.
You give them very limited minutes in situations where they can succeed with their natural talent. If so they can also potentially be used in trades if necessary as upside young guys because they still can't buy a beer, but have shown in limited minutes against "NBA" players. However, I think the best use for them is to fill out the roster with young talent that should have cheap 2nd contracts with bird rights.
Posted on 6/25/17 at 9:37 am to NOFOX
I agree completely that it's not a market inefficiency or some new strategy Demps has figured out. I am happy they are thinking long term like this and hope to see it continue
Projecting a future high draft slot can be a dangerous game to play. instead of "we see it like a 2018 1st round pick" why not say
"we think X has a lot of potential to be a good pro and was not able to fully show that in college. we look forward to working with X and believe he can become a quality player for us."
I'm probably just coming from a different space, but selling it as the team investing in a young guy over time makes sense to me. when you toss out "1st rounder" on a guy, as we've seen in this thread, that carries some expectations for production that just aren't likely, no matter how highly one may think of a 2nd round pick.
Projecting a future high draft slot can be a dangerous game to play. instead of "we see it like a 2018 1st round pick" why not say
"we think X has a lot of potential to be a good pro and was not able to fully show that in college. we look forward to working with X and believe he can become a quality player for us."
I'm probably just coming from a different space, but selling it as the team investing in a young guy over time makes sense to me. when you toss out "1st rounder" on a guy, as we've seen in this thread, that carries some expectations for production that just aren't likely, no matter how highly one may think of a 2nd round pick.
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