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re: U.S. Fighter Jet Shoots Down Syrian Government Plane
Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:58 pm to TennesseeFan25
Posted on 6/18/17 at 7:58 pm to TennesseeFan25
quote:
Navy needs to stick to getting destroyed by cargo ships and leave the air to air shite to the Air Force. Mission creep has caused them to be unreliable in their primary role
This may be the most ignorant post I've ever read.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:05 pm to Jbird
quote:
Here is Col Bud Day
It turns my stomach reading that. I wish Americans were more in tune with what went in in SE Asia during that war. Those stories should be told far more often than they are.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:11 pm to MrCarton
I don't understand what SERE guys in the Air Force do. Are they just instructors?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:11 pm to MrCarton
quote:Now the ridicule them, like they did Admiral Stockdale, one of the badest of the bad.
It turns my stomach reading that. I wish Americans were more in tune with what went in in SE Asia during that war. Those stories should be told far more often than they are.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:14 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:They are the DOD Subject Matter Experts.
I don't understand what SERE guys in the Air Force do. Are they just instructors?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:16 pm to Jbird
Just skimmed the thread. We shittalking in here?
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:17 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
The largest SERE Course and only career-long SERE Instructor cadre are located at the primary Air Force SERE training center which is at Fairchild Air Force Base, Washington; each USAF SERE Specialist (previously called Survival Instructor) goes to a selection course and if selected, then attends the famed USAF SERE Instructor Training Branch six-month course. Those that graduate (less than 15%) are awarded the Sage Beret and SERE Badge. Following ITB, the Specialists are tasked with 45 weeks of intensive on-the-job training to complete their skill levels. Each graduate must attend Airborne School at the US Army Training Center located at Ft. Bragg. After completion of four years as an Instructor (Field Training) the Specialist may be tasked to train students worldwide. Student training for Level "B" medical aircrew was conducted at Brooks City-Base, Texas until the planned course closure on 30 September 2009. The Air Force conducts Arctic Survival Training – Cool School at Eielson Air Force Base, Alaska, and Parachuting and Non-Parachuting Water Survival Training at Fairchild AFB, Washington. The parachute water survival training which used to be located in Florida ceased operations there in August 2015.
SERE training was also conducted at the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs from the late 1960s until 1995, enabling those USAF officers commissioned through USAFA to exempt from USAF SERE training at Fairchild AFB following undergraduate pilot or navigator training. In contrast, those USAF officers commissioned through AFROTC or OTS still had to complete SERE at Fairchild following flight training. In 1995, the resistance/escape element of the course at USAFA was abolished (see Controversies below), leaving the survival and evasion classes in a program called Combat Survival Training (CST). The academy discontinued CST entirely in 2005, however in summer 2008, some portions of the program, including resistance training, were reinstated. Following the summer of 2011, the scope of the CST program was reduced drastically and incorporated into the mandatory expeditionary skills training for budgetary reasons.[5] Now, all USAFA graduates selected for pilot, air battle manager, or navigator training must complete SERE training at Fairchild after receiving their wings, along with their AFROTC and OTS graduate counterparts.
USAF SERE Specialists are considered DOD-wide subject matter experts in their field. USAF SERE Specialists are assigned to base level and to command staff as advisors. USAF SERE are the only Test Parachutists in the Department of Defense. They test all new parachute systems and evaluate all flying platforms for suitability in DOD operations.
SERE training was also conducted at the US Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs from the late 1960s until 1995, enabling those USAF officers commissioned through USAFA to exempt from USAF SERE training at Fairchild AFB following undergraduate pilot or navigator training. In contrast, those USAF officers commissioned through AFROTC or OTS still had to complete SERE at Fairchild following flight training. In 1995, the resistance/escape element of the course at USAFA was abolished (see Controversies below), leaving the survival and evasion classes in a program called Combat Survival Training (CST). The academy discontinued CST entirely in 2005, however in summer 2008, some portions of the program, including resistance training, were reinstated. Following the summer of 2011, the scope of the CST program was reduced drastically and incorporated into the mandatory expeditionary skills training for budgetary reasons.[5] Now, all USAFA graduates selected for pilot, air battle manager, or navigator training must complete SERE training at Fairchild after receiving their wings, along with their AFROTC and OTS graduate counterparts.
USAF SERE Specialists are considered DOD-wide subject matter experts in their field. USAF SERE Specialists are assigned to base level and to command staff as advisors. USAF SERE are the only Test Parachutists in the Department of Defense. They test all new parachute systems and evaluate all flying platforms for suitability in DOD operations.
This post was edited on 6/18/17 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:17 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Grab a beer GT we are in fact shitting the bull.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:21 pm to Jbird
quote:Yeah frick that
USAF SERE are the only Test Parachutists in the Department of Defense. They test all new parachute systems and evaluate all flying platforms for suitability in DOD operations.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:
They were too close for missiles. Had to switch to guns.
Nothing like an old-fashioned gun kill!
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:27 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:No idea, what the wiki thing says.
Yeah frick that
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:29 pm to TennesseeFan25
quote:
Navy needs to stick to getting destroyed by cargo ships and leave the air to air shite to the Air Force. Mission creep has caused them to be unreliable in their primary role
If anything, Naval Aviation has made the AF redundant.
I think you're just melted up because the Navy/USMC got a A2A kill.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:31 pm to Remote Controlled
quote:He is too stupid to know A2A.
I think you're just melted up because the Navy/USMC got a A2A kill.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:32 pm to MrCarton
quote:
"Rocky" Versace
Brother of college and NBA coach Dick Versace.
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Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:36 pm to Jbird
quote:
Robin Olds
Do you have his book Fighter Pilot ?
Awesome guy.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:38 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:Of course!
Do you have his book Fighter Pilot
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:42 pm to Jbird
Great book. One of the co-editors, Ed Rasimus, was also a Viet Nam combat pilot. His books about his own experiences are great, too.
Posted on 6/18/17 at 8:43 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:Name of the books?
Ed Rasimus, was also a Viet Nam combat pilot.
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