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re: Shooting in Virginia: LA representative Steve Scalise shot

Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:16 am to
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:16 am to
These incidents really aren't isolated though, are they?

Maybe the solution or part of it is to somehow try to tighten up access to gun ownership ... before ya'll spit out your morning coffee, what I mean is that how do we prevent nut jobs like Hodgkinson from owning a gun in the first place? I know plenty of people - from all sides of the political spectrum -- who own all types of guns including military-style and I don't fear they are going to do a mass shooting, and they can arm up and play soldier to their little hearts' content -- no skin off my back, true. But how do we keep the crazy Hodgkinson's from having guns?
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32028 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:21 am to
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what I mean is that how do we prevent nut jobs like Hodgkinson from owning a gun in the first place?


How do we prevent felons from getting guns now?

How do we prevent the sale of heroin and other narcotics to our teemagers?

How do we prevent someome from making a bomb and setting it off at the boston marathon?

All of those things are 100% illegal now... yet happen with ease..

When you want to talk about making these strict gun laws, the only people it will effect are the good law abiding citizens. The felons, nut jobs, idiots, can and will get them still.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35553 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:25 am to
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But how do we keep the crazy Hodgkinson's from having guns?



The same way you keep them from having knives, automobiles, gas, fertilizer, box cutters, etc



You cannot eliminate every threat in yours or anyone else's life. The gun is nothing more than a tool. It will comply with the orders given to it by the owner. The owner's intent is the only thing that matters.


Don't the Marines go by "improvise, adapt, overcome"? Don't you think that's what a person who wants to kill people will do? Timothy McVeigh stands out
Posted by Tyga Woods
South Central Jupiter Island, FL
Member since Sep 2016
30462 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:26 am to
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These incidents really aren't isolated though, are they?


It's not the epidemic the left tries to portray.


quote:

how do we prevent nut jobs like Hodgkinson from ownin a gun


Were there obvious indicators suggesting he was nuts? I disagree with his political views but that's not reason enough to classify him as insane or unstable. The last thing anyone wants is the government, whether it's controlled by Dems or Republicans, is to go person to person deciding who is a nut job. Don't you see how that could snowball into a much larger issue??
Posted by Redbone
my castle
Member since Sep 2012
18899 posts
Posted on 6/15/17 at 11:45 am to
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how do we prevent nut jobs like Hodgkinson from owning a gun in the first place?
Do we know if he obtained them legally? Was it legal for him to have them in that area?

There are common threads between mass shootings and, more importantly, the 93 (million!??!) per day that are killed.

Mass shootings: craizies, most identified by friends and family before hand. What should be done/legislated about them? Any other common threads about them?

93 per day: Oh so much in common! The biggie IMO is drugs. Since the bad guys already have guns and don't give a ratzass about your laws you will have to find other ways to fix this. More gun laws for them to break is not the answer. Why are you bringing up big bad "military-style weapons" anyway? Check out the 93 per day. Mostly handguns ILLEGALLY OBTAINED.

That's what pisses us off the most. WE are regulated while guns and drugs are not, .. at least not where they are. And the cops hands are being tied more every day.

I get it that you, TigerJeff do not understand us. What is your hobby? Put it out here for us to insult and fail to understand. I have a 100 yd. range located 20 yards from my back door. I shoot one or more of my guns there almost everyday that the weather allows. It's my hobby.

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