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re: Regarding the O line depth
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:24 am to crewdepoo
Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:24 am to crewdepoo
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He's only recruited and coached 2 classes and we haven't gotten any big fish
It's his job to recruit and land big fish, and OT is arguably as important as any position, maybe second to QB.
Malone is serviceable, but not good enough to consider adding him to his resume. Deculus will be a beast at OG, bookmark it for later, but may be a serviceable RT if needed at best(and that is no knock on him, Im a huge fan). Austin was connected heavily to Miles and committed to him, Grimes gets partial credit for keeping him on board. Weathersby is a win for sure.
We also lost Chidi Okeke, Willie Allen, George Brown, Jevonte Domond, and Andy Dodd. Okeke and Brown were young projects with high ceilings, left early at a thin position and were considered important losses(would have rather seen them both stay and develop at least providing depth). The others werent obvious losses, but he did recruit Allen - which seemed to be a miss.
Pocic was extremely under utilized and has drawn rave reviews in Seattle for his versatility, knowledge, and work ethic. So we will have to agree to disagree on that one.
Hopefully Savage, and Seth Stuart pan out, or Deculus improves his lateral foot speed, cause if Malone or Weathersby go out, those are our choices. Teheuma is not an OT, his skillset mirrors Deculus pretty fairly.
He has done very well at OG recruiting, but the jury is still out on OT where I believe we are razor thin and he needs to prove himself this cycle.
Footnote, he is kicking arse so far in the 2019 cycle, top caliber OG and OT, and I wish both were available this year.
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Posted on 6/9/17 at 12:59 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Chidi Okeke, Willie Allen, George Brown, Jevonte Domond,
Those were all project players. Mainly because we didn't get an big fish. Top OTs are hard to get when there's none in state. To get one of those you need your head coach, regional recruiter, and positional coach all doing their best recruiting. It's not all on grimy.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:02 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Teheuma is not an OT, his skillset mirrors Deculus pretty fairly.
Eh. Debatable. teheuma(I agree, not a tackle)is lightening fast for a guard but their mold are completely different.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:08 am to crewdepoo
I did just rewatched Savage's highschool hudl highlights, and the dude is absolutely an impressive OT. I have no idea why he wasnt ranked higher or had more offers. I dont think he hit the camp circuit, so maybe that has something to do with it. He has to be our 1st option if Malone or Weathersby goes down, so at least thats a relief
Also, just rewatched the spring game. Magee ran as RT in place of Weathersby and did decent. Willie Allen ran w the 2's as LT and was great at run blocking, but had a few whiffs at the end in pass blocking. Savage held his own pretty well. So I suppose its either Savage or Magee if one of our starter OT's go down, unless Seth Stewart comes in and lights the world on fire - he is a total unknown
Also, just rewatched the spring game. Magee ran as RT in place of Weathersby and did decent. Willie Allen ran w the 2's as LT and was great at run blocking, but had a few whiffs at the end in pass blocking. Savage held his own pretty well. So I suppose its either Savage or Magee if one of our starter OT's go down, unless Seth Stewart comes in and lights the world on fire - he is a total unknown
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 2:23 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:12 am to crewdepoo
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Those were all project players. Mainly because we didn't get an big fish. Top OTs are hard to get when there's none in state.
No doubt. Okeke and Brown were surprises in leaving so early. Okeke was a 5 star on multiple sites, and faired well against elite competition at camps. Brown was a high 4 star. Just strange to transfer at such a thin position while they were both just starting their careers.
We were down in state, but we should always be able to raid TX, and this cycle it looks like we are hitting GA hard and they are heavy on OL and LBs yearly
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:12 am to alumni95
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Until we have DOMINANT OL talent and depth again, we may find ourselves continuing to come up short.
What? For the last 4-5 years lsu has had a top 10 oline in cfb.
Teams knew we couldn't throw the ball well and we still ran all over them.
While the 2015 oline wasnt great in pass protection they were so dominant at run blocking that they have been ranked top 10 by pro football focus.
Last year we had the most olineman to be named all sec ,in the sec.
We had a Remington award finalist at center.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:15 am to Rickdaddy4188
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What? For the last 4-5 years lsu has had a top 10 oline in cfb.
Teams knew we couldn't throw the ball well and we still ran all over them
We have had amazing interior OL and Miles had us stacked on blocking TE's, which had a lot to do with it. We ranked so highly because we ran the ball a ton, but our pass blocking left something to be desired. Etling took a pounding last year in multiple games while dropping back.
Also, when facing elite edge rushers, we almost always chip blocked, tying up an extra weapon, using 2 players to neutralize 1
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 1:17 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:24 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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Also, when facing elite edge rushers, we almost always chip blocked, tying up an extra weapon, using 2 players to neutralize 1
You mean like every team in cfb that face elite edge rushers?
Chip blocks dont eliminate a weapon.
Our only real tackle was playing center.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 1:28 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:27 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You mean like every team in cfb that face elite edge rushers?
Why do you get so defensive? The guy is correct.
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Chip blocks dont eliminate a weapon.
No but it's basically a last ditch effort to stop those coming at the QB. Etling had very little time to pass in certain games. That's not a knock on any player, it's just the truth.
Here's to looking forward to those problems being corrected.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:31 am to la_birdman
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Why do you get so defensive? The guy is correct.
What the hell are you talking about?
How is.....
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You mean like every team in cfb that face elite edge rushers?
Being defensive?
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No but it's basically a last ditch effort to stop those coming at the QB. Etling had very little time to pass in certain games. That's not a knock on any player, it's just the truth.
Did you miss where I said.....
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While the 2015 oline wasnt great in pass protection
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:33 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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We ranked so highly because we ran the ball a ton
that's not true. we ranked 3rd in the country in rushing yards per attempt which is harder to keep up the more running plays you run.
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but our pass blocking left something to be desire
Agreed
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:35 am to Rickdaddy4188
He was right about the pass rushing blocking, that's all I was getting at.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 1:40 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:38 am to la_birdman
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You had phrased it like the guy brought up a point that was ludicrous.
It's already been established that you take my posts way out of context.
You actually thought I was talking about your wife when I was giving you a loaded question. My point was that neither answer is good.
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No, I didn't miss anything.
You clearly did because you came thundering in the thread like I hadn't already said the pass pro wasnt great.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:43 am to Rickdaddy4188
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It's already been established that you take my posts way out of context.
Actually, it's the contrary. I have no bone to pick with you but there are other people that understand football just as much as yourself.
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You actually thought I was talking about your wife when I was giving you a loaded question. My point was that neither answer is good.
Well that's a pretty personal thing to "joke" about. No?
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 1:44 am
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:43 am to la_birdman
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He was right about the pass rushing blocking, that's all I was getting at.
Never said he wasn't and never said our pass protection was good.
I even said that our pass pro wasnt great but our run blocking put us into top 10
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:45 am to BillyBobBlitzkrieg
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We were down in state, but we should always be able to raid TX,
We should except AM has been putting a OT in the first round the past 5 years.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:48 am to la_birdman
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Actually, it's the contrary. I have no bone to pick with you but there are other people that understand football just as much as yourself.
At no point have i ever said there arent posters that know as much as me.
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Well that's a pretty personal thing to "joke" about. No?
It wasn't a joke. You asked me a question and neither of my responses would be good so I asked a loaded question to you.
I find it hard to believe youve never heard anyone say," do you still beat your wife" when they are giving examples of no win answers.
We had been having a personal attack free back and forth, why would I all of the sudden start making personal attacks towards you and your wife?
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:50 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I find it hard to believe youve never heard anyone say," do you still beat your wife" when they are giving examples of no win answers.
Well I haven't. Just drop it, I have.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:55 am to la_birdman
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Well I haven't. Just drop it,
I brought it up to show another example of you taking my posts out of context like you did in this thread.
Posted on 6/9/17 at 1:59 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I brought it up to show another example of you taking my posts out of context like you did in this thread.
As I stated before, that isn't true.
As far as this loaded question thing is concerned, which I had no idea it was a loaded question but to the point, neither of your answers suited so you asked that question since I disagreed, which means there was a difference of opinion. Nothing was out of context. It was agree to disagree.
This post was edited on 6/9/17 at 2:01 am
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