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re: 1991 Washington Redskins is the best pro football team of all-time

Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:59 pm to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 9:59 pm to
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How can a team be better if they didn't win the Super Bowl? To constitute a best pro football team of all-time, you win the championship you don't runner-up bc runner-ups being better than world champs make zero sense logically.


Well that's not true...in a sport like football at ALL levels.

It's a one-off, one game...you can have a bad game...or have a really bad matchup - one team is designed to beat everyone else but you and the other is designed to beat mostly you.

Great teams have lost so-called "title games" all the time. Baseball and basketball measure the totality of the team in a 4-game series.

Football does not. College is the biggest joke crowning a champion but the NFL isn't all that much better.

We've never had a "National" Champion in CFB. A lot of great teams. But like the Heisman, we've had "the most hyped team be champion for that year." We've had the "fans claim National champion" - the sportswriters claim "National champion" - the ESPN first take National Champion...some "computer in Omaha National Champion" - Team that gets the most publicity and therefore the most votes "National Champion."

This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 10:02 pm
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:05 pm to
PLEASE, please tell me how a team can be determined the best if they didn't win the CHAMPIONSHIP of that particular profession which acknowledges them as the BEST? That makes literally zero sense bc if you're the best team you win the championship, that's how sports works it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:18 pm to
Before the BCS existed, there was a concept called consensus national champion which therefore determined the national champion. A system like the BCS or playoff didn't exist then, so the recognized adjudicators of the championship were those entities until a more computerized system was implemented to resolve any controversies the dissenting public may present and therefore appease those who took exception to it. Thus, it evolved to the playoff and so on and so forth.
Posted by LooseCannon22282
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Posted on 6/6/17 at 10:24 pm to
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We've never had a "National" Champion in CFB. A lot of great teams. But like the Heisman, we've had "the most hyped team be champion for that year." We've had the "fans claim National champion" - the sportswriters claim "National champion" - the ESPN first take National Champion...some "computer in Omaha National Champion" - Team that gets the most publicity and therefore the most votes "National Champion."




that is my biggest beef with College Football. I mean I still love it but in recent years I've been irritated at the selection process. It feels like a popularity contest most of the time.

I get it.

but I don't always agree with it.


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Football does not.


its been hit and miss but I'd agree that a single game doesn't always determine who the better team is.

I still feel like the Bills were the better team in 1990 but that the Giants were better coached in preparation for that game. The Bills had beaten the Giants earlier that year so its not a stretch to say it.

Phil Simms and Jim Kelly got hurt in that game too (regular season).



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