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re: How are you remembering Union Soldiers that died in the Civil War

Posted on 5/28/17 at 9:16 am to
Posted by ChewyDante
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/28/17 at 9:16 am to
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How are you remembering Union Soldiers that died in the Civil War
Anyone else thankful the stars and bars won that war? I would like to say thank you and memorialize all the Union lives lost in that conflict. Thank God the good guys won! I can't rightfully in my mind root against the USA. Glad we beat the CSA. Murica!

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The funny thing is, the Union soldiers had a great deal more respect for their Confederate opponents than the leftist simpletons that demonize them today to suit their narrative. Both sides came together after the war and the country functioned well after a devastating war with itself. I have tremendous respect for all who died fighting in that war. Unlike many today who see it necessary to denigrate the Confederates who gave their lives.

Whereas today many wish to remove tributes to Confederate icons like Lee and smear his honor and integrity, men in their own time who stood opposite him on the battlefield viewed him very differently. That in itself is quite telling.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:25 am to
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The funny thing is, the Union soldiers had a great deal more respect for their Confederate opponents than the leftist simpletons that demonize them today to suit their narrative.



The problem is not so much with the CSA veterans. The bigggest problem is with the neo rebs who say:

1. The war was not caused by slavery

2. The federal government was an oppressive tyrant, and Lincoln was.

3. The states could unilaterally withdraw from the Union and to Hell what anybody else thought.

4. The rebels fought bravely in the last ditch down to the last round.

5. The Government put oppressive "export taxes" on cotton - yes that was just on here recently.

Of course the Constitution explicitly prohibits taxes on the exports of any state.

So these fricking lies need to be countered.

Should the poor whites have known better than to rally to the cause of the Slave Power, when they had no direct stake in the causes of the war? Maybe not. Probably not.

1. Yes the root cause of the war was slavery.

2. The federal government had almost no impact on the day to day lives of Americans before the war.

3. All the states agreed to a perpetual union in the "Articles of Confederation And Perpetual Union" in 1779.



4. The rebel armies melted away and went home. Southern leadership both civilian and military was very much lacking.

5. The government doesn't tax exports. Geez.



Wow this one says 1778. The perpetual union of these states began with the adoption of the Articles of Confederation.

We now honor the Union men who wouldn't let that idea fail.



This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 12:13 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 5/28/17 at 11:47 am to
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Whereas today many wish to remove tributes to Confederate icons like Lee and smear his honor and integrity, men in their own time who stood opposite him on the battlefield viewed him very differently. That in itself is quite telling.


The Brits lauded Rommel in their day. The Desert Fox!

Because he kept kicking their arse all the time. Lee looked pretty good up against Pope, McClellan, Burnside and Hooker.

Against Grant, not so much.

Lee's accomplishments are always considered in a vacuum. Yes he forced McClellan away from Richmond in the Seven Days Battles. Yes, he flanked Pope at Second Manassas. Burnside appeared to be insane at Fredericksburg. Yes, he broke Hooker's will at Chancellorsville.

What did all that accomplish? Nothing. See how that works?

He had wrecked his army for offensive operations by 7/4/63. How fitting. It was just a matter of time until he and the ANV were crushed by the Union Army.
This post was edited on 5/28/17 at 11:59 am
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