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re: "I never mentioned the word or the name Israel." -DJT
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:35 pm to bonhoeffer45
Posted on 5/22/17 at 9:35 pm to bonhoeffer45
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what is not in dispute, and was my main point, is that classified stuff was leaked. .
I think it is inaccurate to say President Trump "leaked" any classified info to the Russians.
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Too many independent corroborating sources and Trump's own behavior makes it undeniable at this point
The only info President Trump supposedly gave the Russians which some people claim was classified is that ISIS is trying to make laptop bombs.
As other people have already pointed out, that info was already public knowledge.
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How damaging it is, what the root source(s) are(what countries originated the intel) is what is still in flux. Israel is the prime suspect but a Jordanian connection has some evidence from Al Jazeera and a couple Israeli papers. Most think Israel though.
What most people think is irrelevant.
What if President Trump, the Israeli IC and the Israeli leaders are not denying or admitting that the info came from Israel because that way the Russians will think it came from Israel instead of from the county it really came from?
After all, spreading disinformation in order to hide the truth is a classic IC tactic.
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Whether it was from Israel or not isnt the root issue. It's the leaking of any top level classified intel to a country we we did not get permission from to leak to that country. Let alone one that has interests that work counter to our own and could result in compromising that secret intelligence network within ISIS.
I understand that is the talking point being used by the sore loser lefties and Trump haters right now but Russia is also fighting ISIS so it just doesn't make sense to me Russia would do anything that would compromise the secret intelligence network within ISIS.
Explain to me why you think they would.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 9:39 pm
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 10:56 pm to DawgfaninCa
The source of the country is not the problem.
It is the information contained within the intel that was leaked to the Russians by Trump that is of concern. Specifically the ability to work backward and identify where our allies source resides. Trump has taken to Twitter and all but admitted it happened, trying to justify it as in our national interest to disclose this intel to Russia that was not authorized to be shared. He has a right to do it legally, that doesn't make it inconsequential though.
Again, the problem is if what was disclosed can lead back to the source of our intel inside ISIS. Multiple sources to multiple outlets are concerned. When you read commentary in Israel those knowledgablet to the issue are concerned.
The other issue is that of trust. We rely heavily on allies like Israel, Jordan, NATO members, and other allied countries to provide and share vital intelligence about our adversaries. If they feel our president or this administration can not be trusted to keep that info under wraps, they may hesitate to share it in the future. Harming our ability to protect Americans and American interests. Harming our ability to fight terrorism and protect our country.
It is the information contained within the intel that was leaked to the Russians by Trump that is of concern. Specifically the ability to work backward and identify where our allies source resides. Trump has taken to Twitter and all but admitted it happened, trying to justify it as in our national interest to disclose this intel to Russia that was not authorized to be shared. He has a right to do it legally, that doesn't make it inconsequential though.
Again, the problem is if what was disclosed can lead back to the source of our intel inside ISIS. Multiple sources to multiple outlets are concerned. When you read commentary in Israel those knowledgablet to the issue are concerned.
The other issue is that of trust. We rely heavily on allies like Israel, Jordan, NATO members, and other allied countries to provide and share vital intelligence about our adversaries. If they feel our president or this administration can not be trusted to keep that info under wraps, they may hesitate to share it in the future. Harming our ability to protect Americans and American interests. Harming our ability to fight terrorism and protect our country.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 10:58 pm
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