re: Ed's got this. No worries. Update: Drunk man pontificates on things beyond him

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Yet, "win now," means in 4 years if things go south?

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Well what exactly is your definition of "now" dumbass...do tell?

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Thanks for admitting we didn't try to hire an elite coach. And people are excited because he has "heart?"

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Uhm…we didn’t try to hire Jimbo Fisher? We also didn’t try to hire Tom Herman, who is not a proven elite coach in my opinion. Excuse me, I distinctly remember Alleva trying to hire both of those guys.

So, if not coach O, who successfully auditioned for the job, then who would you have suggested we should have hired for the job?

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This is not Ed's dream job, and I don't know why people want to continuously parrot this belief.

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It’s not, well then maybe someone should tell Ed it’s not so he will stop saying it. Not to mention, to also tell his close friends, Momma, and close relatives from saying it as well and instead to deny it.

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This is maybe the most annoying thing about the whole situation.

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Wow man…you are very easily annoyed.

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Yet, "win now," means in 4 years if things go south?

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Well, what you expect? Should we give him a raise and a new long-term contract if he doesn’t win enough in four years?

By the way, name a coach Alleva could have hired last season that would have been a guaranteed “win now” type of hire. Apparently, you must have one on the tip of your tongue the way that you are acting. Okay, who is it? Who did we miss on? Go ahead, we can take it.

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The O hire is terrible, Right now, and the process was completely flawed

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Why and how was it terrible? Alleva didn’t try to hire other coaches before we hired O? Coach O lost all of his games while serving as interim head coach? What did he do? And explain how the process was completely flawed?

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There is no legitimate metric that makes this make sense

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Okay…what does that even mean. Enlighten me.

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This isn't O's dream job, at all, and he openly hammered LSU on multiple occasions. He's an opportunist at heart. He is not an "LSU man"

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Obviously, you feel very strongly about that. Okay here is your chance to explain to us what you mean by that stupidity. He openly hammered LSU on multiple occasions and he is an opportunist at heart. Okay here’s your opportunity to explain all of that nonsense in detail. Well, maybe he didn’t graduate from LSU, but like most Louisiana residents he followed LSU with his family from the time he was a small kid. So how does that make O not an “LSU man”?

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Going the "Clemson" route is not a common way to win. It just happened to work that one time. We may not actually replicate that success.

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I don’t think Alleva set out to go the Clemson route or try to replicate Clemson’s success in the same way. Nonetheless, the fact that not all successful head coaches are former coordinators is pertinent because it is true, especially in light of all you O haters claiming ad nauseam that he is preordained to destroy LSU’s football program.

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He has to win now, not in 4 years, otherwise this hire makes no sense because....

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Okay, again, put your money where your mouth is and name a head coach we could have hired that would have guaranteed that we win now?

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Even if you argue that O's Interim Records matter in this (and I wouldn't), he has never shown the ability to build a program, never been hired to do it after Ole Miss, never really had interest in it after Ole Miss, and doesn't seem to have the skillset for it. You don't hire O as a 10 year program building, elite level coach. He doesn't match that approach to football. He doesn't have that kind of philosophy. That actually might be why his interim record is so good and his head coaching record is so terrible.

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Of course, you wouldn’t argue that O’s interim head coaching experience at two top-notch football programs in the country after Ole Miss is relevant because you hate O. That’s couldn’t be any more obvious.

Moreover, as far as building a program goes, according to Hugh Freeze, who was hired by O at Ole Miss, had O been able to stay just one more season at Ole Miss, the program would have been turned around.

Meanwhile, O’s successor Houston Nutt won with O’s players immediately until they were gone, then when Nutt’s own players replaced O’s players, the program quickly went downhill fast, opening up the job for Hugh Freeze.

Indeed, that’s the record and the record speaks for itself. Of course, O made some stupid mistakes at Ole Miss, but he also did some good things as well. Maybe he didn’t win as fast as he had hoped, but he was only given three years and he was also only a first-time head coach. What first-time head coach doesn’t make stupid mistakes? Everybody learns from experience and from their own stupid mistakes and Ed Orgeron happens to be human too.

If O had been given just one more year, the program as Hugh Freeze attest would have been turned around and Ole Miss would have ended up with a coach that knew how to build and maintain a winning program. Unlike O’s replacement Houston Nutt who won with O’s players and then embarrassed himself as soon as O’s players had graduated.

Meanwhile, since then both at USC and at LSU, O has demonstrated that he has learned from his own damn stupid mistakes. Furthermore, Hugh Freeze is not the only head coach that recommended O, Pete Carroll also put in some strong words in support of O being hired, and I dare say that both those guys not only know a hell of a lot more about football and coaching than you ever will come close to knowing, but they also are astronomically far smarter than you are as well.