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re: Live: President Trump Speaks at 75th Anniversary of the Battle at Coral Sea

Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 10:14 pm to
Just a hypothetical...had the radar operators that mistook the Japanese strike force at Pearl Harbor for a bunch of incoming B17's somehow sounded a warning would the war have turned out differently? Fifteen minutes warning....would it have changed history?I always thought Wake should have been abandoned and maybe even Guam.

Mac Arthur having his planes dispersed at Clark Field and other Philippine Air Bases and many in the air..the food and ammo not sent to the beachheads....it makes me wonder what if. But I have always been an alternate history fan.
This post was edited on 5/4/17 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Mr.Perfect
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 11:51 pm to
Alternative history really is fascinating.

What is JEB Stuart had been with Lee at the beginning of Gettysburg?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 3:27 am to
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Just a hypothetical...had the radar operators that mistook the Japanese strike force at Pearl Harbor for a bunch of incoming B17's somehow sounded a warning would the war have turned out differently? Fifteen minutes warning....would it have changed history?I


The worst thing that could have happened at Pearl Harbor was for the battle line to sortie. Had all those BB's been sunk in open water, they would have been lost to us and the loss of life would have been much worse. As it was, 3 of the BB's sunk in the harbor were raised and refitted. Tennessee, Maryland and Pennsylvania were damaged but not sunk.





USS Nevada bombarding France during operation OVERLORD, 1944.



West Virginia On 12/7/41



Rebuilt and refitted.

This post was edited on 5/5/17 at 3:44 am
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/5/17 at 3:39 am to
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Mac Arthur having his planes dispersed at Clark Field and other Philippine Air Bases and many in the air..the food and ammo not sent to the beachheads...



McArthur had about 35 B-17's in the Philippines and dozens of fighter planes. The Japanese strike timed to hit Clark Field from Formosa (now Taiwan) at the same time at the Pearl Harbor attack was delayed by bad weather. Mac refused his air commander's request to strike first with the Baker Wun Sevens. As it was, the tardy Japanese strike still caught many US aircraft on the ground.

There was enough rice in warehouses to last the garrison two years. But there were no plans to move it or preserve it. It was abandoned to the Japanese or burned as the US forces retreated intro Bataan where they were starved out.

McArthur's performance was not very good in the Philippines.
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