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re: Amazon Echo vs Google Home - Which is best?
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:44 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 5/10/17 at 12:44 pm to Korkstand
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if your Echo/whatever is to know what you have been watching, then all of your devices and services would have to divulge this information to anyone/thing that asks for it.
The Fire TV already has a row of its interface dedicated to NetFlix recommendations. It's stuff you've been watching on NetFlix.
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Further, all of your devices and services would have to allow anyone/thing to control them without your permission.
Your remote control doesn't require personal authorization to turn on your TV. I do agree that as our devices get smarter authentication needs to be more built in, especially regarding things like cameras, doors and other security related devices.
Maybe out of the box is the wrong phrase. Perhaps during a setup wizard or when you install an app you give permission not only to let your FireTV access the app, but you can also authorize your echoes.
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This is also scary.
I'm just talking about giving the combination of FireTV and Echo devices access to knowing what you watch on NetFlix/Hulu/Plex/etc. It's not like I'm saying they can go look at your browser history. Having an Android phone and using the Google ecosystem gives Google way more access to much more personal information than we're talking about with controlling media playback.
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That's just not a world we want to live in.
I really think you're underestimating Joe Six Pack's willingness to trade control for convenience. This new world where your shows come from so many different services that often have their own unique interface can be cumbersome to navigate. In the Cable era you had 2 choices, watch the cable box or watch the DVD/VCR.
Posted on 5/10/17 at 4:51 pm to TigerinATL
quote:Yeah, installing and signing in to an app on a given device gives it permission to watch what you do, assuming the app allows it.
The Fire TV already has a row of its interface dedicated to NetFlix recommendations. It's stuff you've been watching on NetFlix.
quote:My remote control doesn't work in the background, and it can't control anything other than my TV (or other devices that I explicitly tell it to in the case of a universal remote). Allowing another person physical access is authorization enough.
Your remote control doesn't require personal authorization to turn on your TV.
quote:So you agree now that installation and setup of app/device integrations is necessary? This is the crux of my earlier reply.
Maybe out of the box is the wrong phrase. Perhaps during a setup wizard or when you install an app you give permission not only to let your FireTV access the app, but you can also authorize your echoes.
quote:And that would be great. It just can't be automagic. App installation and setup required.
I'm just talking about giving the combination of FireTV and Echo devices access to knowing what you watch on NetFlix/Hulu/Plex/etc.
quote:I'm not necessarily worried about who has what personal or non-personal data. I am just saying I would have some questions if a device could worm its way into my other devices and app data without my knowledge and permission.
Having an Android phone and using the Google ecosystem gives Google way more access to much more personal information than we're talking about with controlling media playback.
quote:Oh, I know the average person would think it's awesome. That's why I think it's important that those of us who have an idea how things work need to stay on top of it.
I really think you're underestimating Joe Six Pack's willingness to trade control for convenience.
quote:I know it can be tough, in my house we use Plex, Netflix, Prime, Youtube, Sling, and Tablo. Even though my 4 year old can find exactly what he wants by navigating all but Sling and Tablo, it would definitely be easier to find what you want with a universal interface. I think it will happen eventually, but it just won't (or shouldn't) be automagic.
This new world where your shows come from so many different services that often have their own unique interface can be cumbersome to navigate.
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