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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:38 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:38 pm to
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Nope. I don't care if you agree with me. You need me to agree with you. Don't try to equate that.
I don't need you to agree with me. Rational discourse requires rational arguments. You haven't provided that.

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And it's no more effective than anything I've offered.
Perhaps not more effective to you than anything you've offered, but I'm using reason and logic. You are sticking to "I don't know".

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That isn't knowledge. That's faith
Everything in this world is taken on faith to one degree or another, even the belief that the laws of causality and non-contradiction are unchanging. Those are the basis for everything we think we know in this world. You are still wanting to take on the subject of philosophy the same way you approach natural sciences. You want empirical evidence for a philosophical assertion when philosophy relies on the laws of logic.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73532 posts
Posted on 5/4/17 at 7:48 pm to
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I don't need you to agree with me.


Your previous statements about the responsibilities your religion places on you indicate otherwise.

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I'm using reason and logic.


Until you concede the point, this is not true.

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Everything in this world is taken on faith to one degree or another


This is completely false.
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