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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:17 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:17 pm to
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I already invited you to do so. I'm not starting it because I'm not the one with a position to defend.
Everyone has a position to defend. You just haven't been honest about yours. I'm not interested in starting a discussion about biblical inerrancy but I'll participate in one if you'd like. I only mentioned that in this thread because that is where the discussion was going when no one was agreeing to my initial premise. I already discussed why it was futile to delve into that discussion here until the broader question was answered.

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Neither do you. Again, that's the whole point of this.
I've provided philosophical answers to philosophical questions. You have provided "I don't know".

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They do when they can be equally proven
If you'd like to provide a philosophical argument to "I don't know", go ahead. I've already done so for what I believe. I've already done more than you're willing to do.

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Sure I have. Your god cannot give objective morality any more than anything else based on what we know.
Apparently I know more than you do since I accept a source document for God and accept the philosophical necessity of God that you seem to not have put much thought into. The world that we know requires the God of the Bible in order to be sensible. Philosophers throughout the ages have pondered on this topic, yet those brilliant minds seem to have been defeated by "I don't know". I wonder why they even tried.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 5/4/17 at 5:22 pm to
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Everyone has a position to defend.


Nope. I don't care if you agree with me. You need me to agree with you. Don't try to equate that.

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I've already done so for what I believe.


And it's no more effective than anything I've offered.

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Apparently I know more than you do since I accept a source document for God and accept the philosophical necessity of God that you seem to not have put much thought into.


That isn't knowledge. That's faith.
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