re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?

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If "I don't know" provides us with objective morality, that would also seem to be a good source

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"I don't know" is not an argument or even a guess. It's nothing. You are making light of a hotly debated topic that is as old as the study of philosophy if not as old as mankind.

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Incorrect. I'm equating our lack of understanding and knowledge with our lack of understanding and knowledge.

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Your comparison is off because you are trying to treat philosophy like the natural sciences when they don't operate the same way.

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Nope, this is the point in the discussion where we don't agree.

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That point was reached from the first post. Instead of continuing in philosophical discourse, you have resorted to irrationality and accuse me of the same, which is not true.

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Your views are not verifiable and cannot be any more objective than mine.

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My views are based on both the Bible and philosophy; I'm using the laws of logic in my reasoning and those are not being refuted by you or anyone else.

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You want to be able to use "ifs," but it falls apart when the opposition does so.

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I'm providing a very specific "what if" for the sake of argument, but I believe it is reality and truth, not just a what if. You haven't provided anything specific. You haven't provided a competing idea or argument. You have provided "I don't know" in a serious philosophical discussion. Nothing I have said has fallen apart yet because there hasn't been a serious rebuttal provided.

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You don't like that I won't concede a point you haven't won, so you pass it off to "nothing else to offer."

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You haven't provided anything else. You've provided a farcical "I don't know" as a legitimate comparison to a specific philosophical argument. I claim the existence of an omniscient, unchanging God that has provided an objective moral standard and you equate that with "I don't know". It's as if you don't understand we are talking philosophically.

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I don't care about the last word, but I won't let certain things go unaddressed. Feel free to move on

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You have left a lot unaddressed so I don't buy that statement. The responses you are giving are short, unclear, lacking specifics, and borderline juvenile considering the topic we're discussing.

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Indeed, and this is why they're easily defeated in rational discourse.

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That's simply not true. I'm a complete amateur at apologetics yet you have to devolve into the absurd because you leave so much of what I have said unanswered.