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re: Is there a secular argument against abortions?
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:51 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:I know what you're doing but I'm not pulling something out of thin air, here. I've got a worldview based on the Bible which claims to be revelation from God, who classifies as an objective moral law giver based on His description in the Bible. You aren't providing any concrete basis for an objective moral law giver and at this point are turning a serious philosophical discussion into a parody.
OK, then let's say we have objective morality that doesn't come from your god. "I don't know" is where it comes from. There, now we each have an equal claim to objective morality.
If you'll concede that the existence of God as He's described in the Bible provides for an authoritative basis for objective morality, we can discuss the merits of objectivity versus subjectivity within a moral framework.
Posted on 5/4/17 at 3:59 pm to FooManChoo
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I've got a worldview based on the Bible
Written by primitive men thousands of years ago. You have no more objectivity than anything I'd offer.
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You aren't providing any concrete basis for an objective moral law giver
Neither are you. That's the point.
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If you'll concede that the existence of God as He's described in the Bible provides for an authoritative basis for objective morality, we can discuss the merits of objectivity versus subjectivity within a moral framework.
Concede that "I don't know" is as relevant to that point as the existence of your god, and I'm happy to.
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