That was my point of view. Nothing Foster, Payton, nor Loomis said makes real sense. The "logical" explanation of they called too early doesn't make sense (why not get on the clock and then call to ask questions like they've done EVERY other year?).

So my explanation of what I think happened, given the little we do know, is either they started to consider Foster as a possible pick last minute because the value was extreme but then wanted to see if they could find a reason not to take him.

or

They never wanted Foster and created a perceived want possibly knowing SF would have taken him extremely high. Seattle is a threat to take the tackle they had rated top 15. Forcing a trade into that spot by acting like they want Foster just before they get on the clock ensures Seattle doesn't snipe their real pick. And if the gamble doesn't work you just take that unnamed player you were looking at.

Now I'll ask again, why would this be the first time in over a decade they call a pick before they are on the clock? I'm not asking IF it happened. I know it happened. Why did it happen? If your answer is because they were careless or stupid I don't buy that because Payton is meticulous and paranoid. Give me something else because I can't see it.

And then why ask his girlfriend questions during the draft? I have only one explanation. Is there another one?

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Posted by drizztiger

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 1:21 am to bonethug0108

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That was my point of view. Nothing Foster, Payton, nor Loomis said makes real sense

Competing narratives would be expected.

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they started to consider Foster as a possible pick last minute because the value was extreme but then wanted to see if they could find a reason not to take him.

or

They never wanted Foster and created a perceived want possibly knowing SF would have taken him extremely high.

So either they decided to vet Foster at the last minute (a potential top 10 pick) /or/ they were trolling the team to pick #31 just cuz...

You can't be serious.

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Posted by Riseupfromtherubble

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:03 am to bonethug0108

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Nothing Foster, Payton, nor Loomis said makes real sense.

Two of these gentleman are intelligent enough to fabricate a cover story, the other has the story fabrication capacity of a pit bull

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They never wanted Foster and created a perceived want possibly knowing SF would have taken him extremely high. Seattle is a threat to take the tackle they had rated top 15. Forcing a trade into that spot by acting like they want Foster just before they get on the clock ensures Seattle doesn't snipe their real pick.

This is a big reach. For one, the phones aren't bugged. It's not like everyone got an email notifying them that the saints had phoned Foster. Secondly, it's understood at that point who the top player on everyone's board is, there's no need for a "perceived want." Seattle didn't need the top player on the board because they're stacked at the position. This is something that the saints should've recognized, that Seattle would be shopping the pick. They were able to trade back a few spots knowing that they would still have a highly rated player available and they could acquire more picks, something they needed. It wasn't a secret that the niners wanted Foster, they tried to trade in front of Cincinnati and then again in front of Baltimore to no avail. The saints jumped the gun, simple as that.

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Posted by NOSHAU

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Posted on 5/3/17 at 9:37 am to bonethug0108

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Now I'll ask again, why would this be the first time in over a decade they call a pick before they are on the clock?

That is a huge assumption and possibly incorrect. I seem to recall a story a while back about us on the phone with someone when another team picked the player.

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