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re: Former intel officer confirms to CNN that US IC was using Brits to get around US law

Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:05 am to
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17112 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:05 am to
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bullshite. It's the standard story--other nations began noticing strange things about the Trump campaign in 2015


Why were they monitoring the Trump campaign in 2015? Paul Manafort and Carter Page were not even on the campaign then. So who exactly were they monitoring?

Don't you find it odd that GCHQ, German intelligence, and the NSA just kept "incidentally" collecting on Trump for well over a year? Do you not find it odd that Susan Rice was over there unmasking personal conversations on Trump's FAMILY that had zero foreign intel value?

Get real, man. This was nothing but a witch hunt. Obama was doing opposition research on Trump by using the fricking intelligence apparatus of the United States. He even went so far as to open an FBI investigation based on a made up dossier written by a guy on Hillary's payroll.

The whole thing stinks. If Trump's people really were colluding with Russia, do you not think they would have found evidence in all those conversations they were "incidentally" collecting for a god damned year? Do you not think that just one of these people said "Ok, let's hack this election, baws" in all that time? What exactly were they listening to them talk about and why has nothing come of it?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:16 am to
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So who exactly were they monitoring?


Ohhh, I don't know. Maybe one of these guys???

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Tevfik Arif, Patokh Chodiev, Alijan Ibragimov, Felix Sater, Mikhael Sheferovsky, Semion Mogilevich, Gennady Klotsman, Salvatore Lauria, Alex Shnaider, Boris J. Birshtein, Sergei Mikhaylov, Alexander Volkov, Patokh Chodiev, Alexander Mashkevich, Eduard Shifrin, Oleg Sheykhametov, Lev Kvetnoy, Andrei Skoch, Evsei Schnaider, Paul Manafort, Dmytro Firtash, Anatoly Golubchik, Alimzhan Tokhtakhounov, Anatoly Golubchik, Galina Telesh, Dariga Nazarbayeva, Jacob Bogatin, David Bogatin.


For frick's sake. The man was being groomed by KGB agents since the 1980s ( LINK):

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First, the President-elect really is very “well-connected,” with an extensive network of unsavory global underground connections that may well be unprecedented in White House history. In choosing his associates, evidently Donald Trump only pays cursory attention to questions of background, character, and integrity.

Second, Donald Trump has also literally spent decades cultivating senior relationships of all kinds with Russia and the FSU. And public and private senior Russian figures of all kinds have likewise spent decades cultivating him, not only as a business partner, but as a “useful idiot.”

After all, on September 1, 1987 (!), Trump was already willing to spend a $94,801 on full-page ads in the Boston Globe, the Washington Post, and the New York Times calling for the United States to stop spending money to defend Japan, Europe, and the Persian Gulf, “an area of only marginal significance to the U.S. for its oil supplies, but one upon which Japan and others are almost totally dependent.”79


Wake the frick up, people.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 4/15/17 at 9:30 am to
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Why were they monitoring the Trump campaign in 2015?
They were monitoring various Russian persons, not future Trump campaign members.

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So who exactly were they monitoring?


See above.

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Don't you find it odd that GCHQ, German intelligence, and the NSA just kept "incidentally" collecting on Trump for well over a year?
Maybe Trump's people talked to a lot of Russians on a lot of occasions. Maybe they should have found a different crowd to run with.

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Get real, man. This was nothing but a witch hunt. Obama was doing opposition research on Trump by using the fricking intelligence apparatus of the United States. He even went so far as to open an FBI investigation based on a made up dossier written by a guy on Hillary's payroll.
Why not break it all in October if that's the case? What's the point in pulling some shite like this to rig an election if you don't introduce it during the election.

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If Trump's people really were colluding with Russia, do you not think they would have found evidence in all those conversations they were "incidentally" collecting for a god damned year?
I think they're sure as shite still looking for a reason.
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