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re: The Russians say the chemical attack was by the rebels, America says by Assad.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:49 am to Iosh
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:49 am to Iosh
do we even know how many "sides" are really fighting in Syria right now?
Syria seems like one of the most complex wars ever, post WWII
all the different interests for the different proxy wars makes it exponentially worse
Syria seems like one of the most complex wars ever, post WWII
all the different interests for the different proxy wars makes it exponentially worse
Posted on 4/5/17 at 10:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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do we even know how many "sides" are really fighting in Syria right now?
Syria seems like one of the most complex wars ever, post WWII
all the different interests for the different proxy wars makes it exponentially worse
There are several main 'sides'.
USA/EU/Saudis/Al Queda: Want Assad gone so because he said no to building a pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Europe to give Europe cheaper LNG than currently getting from Russia
Russia/Iran/Assad: Do not want pipeline built, because it increases Saudi Arabia's power over Europe and in the Middle East, and decreases Russia's influence in Europe and Iran's in the middle east.
ISIS: Was part of US/EU/AQ side but is now more of a liability.
Kurds: frick the Turks, gas the Arabs, race war now
Turkey: Various motivations, not really on anyone's side, but not really against anyone either. I think they're just having fun because they get to kill Kurds, Arabs, and spend US money.
This image should be the first thing that comes up for "Why is there war in Syria?"
This post was edited on 4/5/17 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:07 am to SlowFlowPro
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do we even know how many "sides" are really fighting in Syria right now?
As briefly as possible:
Al-Saad (leader of Syria)
Supported by Iran due to religious ties- both are shiite - and Iran's number one rival is Saudi Arabia
Supported by Russia because destabilization is Syria immediately and severely affects Russian national security and because Russia holds the Port of Taurus on the Mediterranean Coast in Syria. Furthermore, Russia has economic interest in Al-Saad remaining in power.
Supported by China because China as economic interest in the Al-Saad regime and China has a long-standing policy of opposing regime change by outside forces.
Supported by Hezbollah because Hezbollah is shiite extremist group.
Rebellion
Free Syria Army is the moderate paramilitary group at the center of the Rebellion whose state interest is regime change for a more democratic Syria.
ISIS/ISIL is the Sunni Extremist paramilitary group who seeks regime change in Syria in order to establish a Sunni caliphate in the larger region and a nation of operations. They are funded by Saudi Arabia.
Al-Nusar is a Sunni Extremist paramilitary group seeking a regime change in Syria to establish a Sunni government. They are supported by Qatar.
75 other smaller extremist groups are engaged in the fighting as well.
Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS because it wants Al-Saad gone on religious grounds (Saudi Arabia is sunni) and to weaken Iran. Same for Qatar
The U.S. and its Western Allies support the rebellion and regime change supposedly because of war crimes by Al-Saad but more likely because our two allies - Saudi Arabia and Qatar - want him gone.
Posted on 4/5/17 at 11:13 am to SlowFlowPro
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do we even know how many "sides" are really fighting in Syria right now?
I heard on NPR a few months ago that at one point US had some special forces assisting the Kurds. Then the Kurds were attacked by the Turks. In effect, our troops were then fighting alongside our Kurdish allies against our NATO Turkish allies. It's so awesome.
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