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re: Texas AG sued to keep a Bible quote in school. Now he’s troubled by Muslim prayers.

Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:25 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:25 pm to
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But they allow 10 to go privately?
I don't know what they do. But 90 students 3 or 4 times a class size. 10 could meet in a conference room by the office and they, 90 would need a gym or auditorium, etc.
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Well, certainly if you allow Muslims to meet and pray, then you should allow Christians, right?
They aren't "meeting." They are praying individually; they don't have to be anywhere near one another.
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And in the case of the 90 Christians....the students were not exposed to that practice, either. Soooooo...what was your point?
My point was that the school obviously took issue after it had reached a certain size. Religion aside, 90 high schoolers in one place at one time, would require school signicantly more school resources (supervision, space), that I could see a school having concerns ABOUT any meeting that size for any reason.

I don't care one way is the other, but I could see the school deciding it was too big. Either way, I don't see why you have a problem with the Muslims praying, since you've provided no evidence that a Christian wouldn't be afforded the same reasonable accommodation at that school.

You had to pull any example of a different school, in a different state, banning a 90 group meeting (which was later allowed). They are neither the same substantively, nor are they the same school to make a precise comparison.

And besides, the school eventually allowed it, so then the story is even less relevant. So then you should be supportive of both schools allowing their practices.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 1:28 pm
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Either way, I don't see why you have a problem with the Muslims praying, since you've provided no evidence that a Christian wouldn't be afforded the same reasonable accommodation at that school.

Fact: The room is available for 30 minutes.

Proof:
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The prayer room is actually a classroom that is used during a teacher's conference period. Students are allowed to go in there for 30 minutes since it is not being used for instruction during that time, Moore said.

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Fact: The Muslims perform the call to prayer, followed by 15 minutes of prayer (at least 20 minutes of the 30 minutes).

Proof:
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It’s a Friday afternoon, a little after 2, at Liberty High School. Student Zaki Sayyid recites the Islamic call to prayer. He and 10 other Muslim students are inside a classroom, on their knees facing east. Girls wear hijabs. Everyone’s taken off their shoes. They spend the next 15 minutes in prayer. This isn’t a common scene at most schools. But at Liberty, it happens every Friday.

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Fact: Principal is intimating that all religions are being accommodated during that 30 minutes by stating that "it's not just Muslims" during that 30 minutes.

Fact: Haven't seen any reference to any non-Muslim religious observance during that 30-minute time frame (edit) other than silent prayer by other groups during the Muslims' taking center stage (not good enough in my book, what if someone Baptist actually wanted to speak out loud?).

Logical conclusion: White, non-religious suburban kids who think it's "neat" to watch Muslims pray exclusively is being considered religious diversity (or non-Muslims are being forced into silent prayer while the Muslims wail).

Not good enough.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 3:04 pm
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