re: Texas AG sued to keep a Bible quote in school. Now he’s troubled by Muslim prayers.

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So? Medical standards are different. That doesn't mean we've seen degradation

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I'm not talking about medicine. Morality is a standard of what is good vs. what is bad. My point here was to acknowledge that you probably won't see moral degradation if your moral code is diametrically opposed to mine. In fact, you probably see morality as improving.

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Well, it's a cherry-picked worldview that happens to align to what is currently acceptable in society.

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It's not cherry-picked at all. My worldview is based on Biblical truths that I believe are universal. The moral law of God doesn't change.

What is currently acceptable in society is changing all the time, which is the basis for my original statement about the degradation of morality in society. Broken homes, single parents, STDs, lives of idleness caused by substance abuse, and even a general lack of common goodness to others are just a few examples of the degradation of morality in society as these things are now expected and in some cases even promoted as viable ways to live life. The "faith in humanity restored" memes are very telling that something that would be expected of everyone a hundred years ago is not lauded as a unique example today.

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Right. So your opinion.

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Yes, just like your opinion that there is no moral degradation in society.

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Cool, and that was still happening long before the decline of Christianity. It's an irrelevant point

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Apparently I'm not communicating this effectively as you still don't get it.

As the Christian ethic of selflessness and provision for the needy decreases, the need (or perceived need) of government intervention increases. It's not irrelevant at all when I said government increases as Christianity decreases. When you don't have individuals who are self-motivated (by their faith) to help others, you get people crying for the government to step in and do it.

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It isn't about justification, and there's none necessary.

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It is. People who see Christ's perfect obedience to the law of God will see their own sinfulness by comparison. People don't like that, so they reject Christ to make themselves feel better. The justification is necessary since the alternative is living with the understanding that you don't measure up to God's righteousness.

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That's complete bull shite. Many secularists are also humnanists, who I'd argue care much more about taking care of people than many Christians.

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The secularist has no objective reasoning for being "good" to humanity while the Christian does. I'd argue that while there are many secularists who are humanists, they are inconsistent with their own worldview. Likewise, the professing Christian who does not care about humanity is also inconsistent with his professed worldview. Also note that I said "general attitude", and not "exclusive attitude".

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Incorrect. We inject what we as a society find acceptable based on knowledge, experience, goals, etc.

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Incorrect. Look at this change in society towards transgenderism which flies in the face of scientific understanding of humanity; the liberal notion of acceptance of Muslims who want to convert or kill them (the liberals); the rejection of the Christian worldview that, as a moral code, is objectively more positive for humanity than that of secular humanism, yet is less palatable.

What we find more and more of in our society is people wanting to be free to do what they want; what makes them feel good. "Don't judge" should probably be the new mantra, except it is applied liberally to everyone but Christians who dare challenge their notion of what should be morally acceptable.

As the Bible says, there is nothing new under the sun. The same things the secularists are fighting for today have existed for thousands of years prior in civilizations all around the world.

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This is a large part of your postion and your ideas. You operate under the assumption that anything done without your god as a driver is done for purely selfish reasons. Pretending that secularists don't care about anyone but themselves is ignorant.

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There is no objective basis for doing anything at all for a secularist. The only thing that comes closest is the notion of putting one's own self interest ahead of all others. While it's possible to act in the interest of others ahead of yourself, there is no objective reason to do so, and that leads to people being naturally selfish.

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Nah, it's still a positive. You don't think it's a positive, but that's not really important here.

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Ditto. Like I said, our differing worldviews will prevent us from agreeing what is good or bad (positive or negative).

I believe increasing rejection of Christianity is negatively impacting most if not all areas of our culture, from the family unit, to the concept of basic biology in male and female, to concepts of beauty and love, to notions of property ownership and theft. There is a lot of "bad" in this world that is brought about by the rejection of the Christian worldview.