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So, if a student from Haiti that practices VooDoo, says he required to sacrifice a chicken, there would be no problem with the school providing that student a rood to do so?

No but in the Tinker case (free speech), SCOTUS has ruled that it can't prohibit unless it:

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materially and substantially interfere[d] with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school

Sacrificing a chicken would clearly be inappropriate.

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It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.

It was their STUDY hall, but they weren't just praying, they were singing songs, etc. You could argue that should be acceptable (should have kept the lawsuit going), but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.

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Dude. You are all over the place. The article plainly says that the students. of their own volition decided to spend their free time praying. the school did not encourage it. They discouraged it. So, your assertion that it was a school sponsored activity just doesn't hold water.

I'm saying that when it became that size, it became something that was not a private display, but a very public display.

Maybe the school was wrong, but it's not the same as a required religious practice. Besides, you're comparing one school to another, as if this means all schools are banning Christians and allowing Muslims to pray.

So even if the school in Colorado erred, that doesn't somehow mean the school in Texas with the Muslims should err as well, and probably more egregiously.

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Posted by DawgsLife

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Posted on 3/20/17 at 12:03 pm to buckeye_vol

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materially and substantially interfere[d] with the requirements of appropriate discipline in the operation of the school

And getting up in the middle of class to pray does nto violate this? Hmmmm.....I wonder how this conversation would go if it were Christians wanting to walk out of class to pray? Oh. WAIT! You wouldn't like it even if they only did it during free period!

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Sacrificing a chicken would clearly be inappropriate.

True.

But, appropriateness is in the eye of the beholder. It is perfectly logical and appropriate to a student that practices voodoo.

I mean, do you consider it appropriate for students to walk out of classes to pray?

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It was their free time! You are just being obtuse, now. It was fre time, that the students decided they wanted to pray.

It was their STUDY hall, but they weren't just praying, they were singing songs, etc. You could argue that should be acceptable (should have kept the lawsuit going), but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.

A study hall in which other students were reading, texting, playing games etc. And as for their singing...the article clearly states they went away from the other students to keep from being bothered or from bothering anyone else.

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but it's not a required practice, and at some point the sheer size plays a role.

1. If you believe this, then you do not understand Christianity. Corporal worship, meeting together, worshiping God, reading the Bible, Praying are all required of Christians. (Doesn't mean all Christians do it. But I would be willing all Muslims do not pray 5 times a day.) Sheer numbers do not mean a school sponsors something. If 100s of students began rioting in the school, would you say that is a school sanctioned/sponsored event?

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I'm saying that when it became that size, it became something that was not a private display, but a very public display.

Again. They went to a separate area of the school. 10 students getting up in the middle of class to pray would be a pretty public display, wouldn't you think? I mean, how many students are there in a typical classroom these days?

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Maybe the school was wrong, but it's not the same as a required religious practice. Besides, you're comparing one school to another, as if this means all schools are banning Christians and allowing Muslims to pray.

It is more common that what you are thinking. Would you like for me to find more links to Muslims being able to pray with full school knowledge and acceptance?

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