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re: Beauty and the Beast thoughts and discussions
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:33 am to AUveritas
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:33 am to AUveritas
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Without resorting to personal opinion and other subjective standards, please explain how you define "decent". This is the ultimate folly of atheism. As Dostoevsky famously pointed out, if there is no God then everything is permissible. After all, if right and wrong become a matter of personal and social opinions, nothing is ever objectively wrong.
Right and wrong are a matter of social opinions. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that slavery was considered acceptable and normal. As was lynching, burning people at the stake, and gladiator fights to the death.
Pretty much every atheist I know is a very good person who actually do far more to help others than most of the Christians I know. The atheist I know help others without questions or stipulations. The Christians I know that actually help others who not help "certain kinds of people". Generally people who are exactly like them.
An atheist does a good deed because he feels morally obligated to do so. A Christian does a good deed expecting g to be rewarded. Who is really the better person?
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Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:41 am to AshLSU
You proved my point and didn't answer my question at the same time. Tell me what is good and decent without resorting to using your opinions. Give me objective proof of what is good. Tell me why Hitler was bad without using your opinion as justification.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 11:43 am to AshLSU
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An atheist does a good deed because he feels morally obligated to do so. A Christian does a good deed expecting g to be rewarded. Who is really the better person?
i understand your sentiment, but a christian does a good deed, knowing there is no reward for it. salvation comes at no cost and no deed can earn it.
at least, that's the way i understand the Bible. i'm not taking away from your overall point as there's truth there, but i think that only misguided christianity is seeking reward for good deeds.
Posted on 3/21/17 at 12:02 pm to AshLSU
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Right and wrong are a matter of social opinions. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that slavery was considered acceptable and normal. As was lynching, burning people at the stake, and gladiator fights to the death.
This is more of an argument against prevailing opinions being the basis for morality than it is for it. I'm sure you ignore the role of Christians in putting an end to these practices.
This post was edited on 3/21/17 at 12:13 pm
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