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re: Why can't people understand that socialized medicine will ultimately fail?

Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:01 am to
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:01 am to
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We also spend the most per capita.


Real life example before I was an educated health care consumer. I just had really never bothered before.

Knee pain while in Birmingham. Guess who I went to see. Yep, Dr. Andrews because he was "the best". I skipped the GP because I wanted the best care for basically a swollen knee with no damage.

Why did I do that? There are several reasons really. The first is that I thought I really had a serious issue because of the pain. The second is that I wanted the best doctor for the job. The last is that Dr. Andrews has marketed himself well.

Because my insurance pretty much allowed for this without much thought or financial pain I likely created a claim that was triple the value of what it should have been.

My GP could have done what they did which only an x-ray and an Rx for anti-inflammatory meds.

We are completely disconnected from the true cost of care.

Another example is getting MRIs in hosptials. Another is getting care at the brand name/most expensive hospital/clinic without ever researcher their actual outcomes.

We are a mess in that regard.

ETA: Clearly, I didn't see Dr. Andrews. I went to his clinic. He wouldn't bother flying on his personal jet in from the beach to see me in B'ham just to tell me I was sore.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by dkreller
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 9:03 am to
Constant ordering of MRIs and other "excessive" tests is a result of fear of malpractice suits.
This post was edited on 3/10/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/10/17 at 10:17 am to



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However, when patients pay their own medical bills, they act like normal consumers ? comparing prices and looking for value. And when patients act like prudent consumers, doctors who want their patronage must respond by competing on prices, convenience and other amenities.


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The price of medical care has increased an average of 118 percent.
The price of physician services rose by 92 percent.
The inflation rate, for all goods and services, as measured increased by 64 percent.
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