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Politifact in action. Trump's 100% true statement rated mostly false

Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:44 am
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:44 am
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23417 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:47 am to
Wow you don't need to say much more than that to see what's going on. Trump could save a baby from a burning building and the media would be asking if it was trump who started to fire in the first place. Fake news.
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:47 am to
Posted by MLSter
Member since Feb 2013
3973 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:51 am to
That's so pathetic on their part
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:56 am to
Politifact doing what Politifact does.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:59 am to
"The sky is blue".


Mostly False


Most would agree that the sky is blue, and it inherently is. Some visual experts would disagree in the case of color blind people in further research.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 7:01 am
Posted by a want
I love everybody
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:59 am to
Is Trump an idiot for believing that stat, or does he take you for an idiot? Which is it? You get to pick, but it has to be one or the other.
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:12 am to
For context...

quote:

First, it is true that the debt has probably ticked down but as noted by the Atlantic's David Frum, this is mostly due to the federal government rebalancing its intra-governmental holdings. Debt outstanding to the public has barely budged since Inauguration Day.

Additionally, the federal government is still operating under the budget passed before Trump came into office, so even if the overall debt decreased, his administration had little to do with it.

Finally, and most importantly, the economic circumstances during his and Obama's first month in office are vastly different and make the comparison totally off base.

When Obama took office in January 2009, the country was in the midst of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. The US economy lost 702,000 jobs in February 2009 and 832,000 in March 2009, GDP growth collapsed, and foreclosures soared. In response to this crisis, Obama did what presidents typically do during recessions: took on debt to stimulate the economy.


LINK
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 8:22 am to
LINK

Here you go golden. So instead of trying to create fake news just post to the article.

It cites the entire tweet and explains why it is rated mostly false (because it is).

Sad effort man, very sad. We have the worst fake news posters, don't we folks. Bad hombres.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54753 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:00 am to
Doesn't even pass the smell test.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:16 am to
Thanks Obama!
Posted by Bullethead88
Half way between LSU and Tulane
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 9:54 am to
quote:

The National Debt in my first month went down $12 billion.

The first problem is that you mis-quoted what Trump tweeted. What Trump actually tweeted was:

“The media has not reported that the National Debt in my first month went down by $12 billion vs a $200 billion increase in Obama first mo.”

Trump not only provided the data you gave in your quote, but also wanted credit for the decline in the National debt.

Politifact was not he only one to call Trump out on that. The Washington Times headline read:
"Trump demands credit for drop in national debt," and the WaTimes article said:
quote:

But the debt had actually been holding fairly steady since just before Thanksgiving, or about two months before Mr. Trump took office. It stood at $19.9 trillion as of the middle of November, came within a whisker of $20 trillion around the new year, and now stands back at $19.9 trillion again. LINK

Forbes also commented on Trump's tweet under the headline:
"Trump's Right, The Debt Has Fallen $12 Billion - It's Nothing To Do With Trump Though", and the Forbes article went on to say:
quote:

He’s right that it has fallen–and it’s also absolutely nothing at all to do with the fact that Donald Trump was elected nor that he took office. It’s about the vagaries of Federal accounting plus the fact that tax revenue is rather “lumpy” to use the vernacular. What it isn’t is a signal that the national debt is on a downward path generally– .
LINK


What Trump tweeted was a half truth. Most people I know consider a half truth a lie.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:47 pm to
Kind of reminds me of Hussein bragging about the deficit being reduced by actions that he fought tooth and nail against ("the sequester).

I don't remember anybody rating that as "mostly false" because he had nothing to do with it (in fact, he fought against it).
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32133 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:04 pm to
The fact checkers are even less credible than CNN.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 6:45 pm to


This has to be one of the most pathetic "brags" of all time.
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:29 pm to
"The numbers check out" - Mostly False
Posted by IAmReality
Member since Oct 2012
12229 posts
Posted on 2/26/17 at 7:32 pm to
Politi"fact" also took almost the exact same statemetn from Bernie Sanders and from Trump regarding actual black unemployment and rated Sanders mostly true and Trump mostly false.

They both said, essentially, that REAL unemployment for blacks was much higher than the stated government %.

For Sanders statement they said "Mostly true, the official number sucks!"

and for Trump said "Mostly false, he's using unofficial metrics, the government's official number is X! He's lying!"
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