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Mike Pence: Muslim Ban Unconstitutional and Offensive.

Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:37 am
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41745 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:37 am
Why in the hell would he leave this tweet up?

quote:

Governor Mike Pence @GovPenceIN
8 Dec 2015
Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional.


LINK
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 5:38 am
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:40 am to
Because it's the truth?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41678 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:40 am to
Yeah it is the truth no issue here
Posted by GEAUXmedic
Joplin, MO
Member since Nov 2011
41745 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:42 am to
I'm not disputing the truth of it. My personal opinions don't argue the constitutionality of it.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 5:42 am
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:45 am to
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 8:28 pm
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:45 am to
Our president has declared war on radical Islam.

It is perfectly constitutional. We banned japs during ww2. Infact we put them in internment (concentration) camps. All done by a Democrat. Infact every president has suspended immigration from people and areas we are at war with, but don't let facts get in the way of a good virtue signal. (Which was all Mike Pence was doing back then as he didn't realize most of America agreed)

Also some of you are idiots if you actually thought he meant ban all Muslims. It was obvious he was just making head lines. No one took this seriously. It was always intended as he now puts it. It is still constitutional either way.
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 5:47 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37663 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:46 am to
quote:

Why in the hell would he leave this tweet up?

Because he's honest about his thoughts. And more importantly he's correct?
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
37663 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:47 am to
quote:

It is perfectly constitutional. We banned japs during ww2. Infact we put them in internment (concentration) camps. All done by a Democrat. Infact every president has suspended immigration from people and areas we are at war with, but don't let facts get in the way of a good virtue signal. (Which was all Mike Pence was doing back then as he didn't realize most of America agreed)

We've done a lot of things in the past, as recently as the 1960s and early 70s, to other groups that have been deemed unconstitutional and wrong
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:50 am to
In the words of trump "wrong"

I have read the article stating that a president has the right to suspend any group, nationality, etc for national security. It is in the Constitution. Get over it. It was posted here and other places many times.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:51 am to
quote:

The president has nearly unchecked authority to ban people from entering the country
In 1952, Congress passed something called the Immigration and Nationality Act. It has been amended dozens of times subsequently, and currently exists as a 600-page behemoth with lots of very specific rules.

There is one section, 212(f), that is particularly relevant to the Muslim ban. It sets out criteria for “excludable aliens” — which noncitizens the president can choose, using executive powers, to prevent from entering the United States. Its wording is exceptionally broad:

Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Translated from legalese: The president can ban whoever he wants, however long he wants, for whatever reason he wants.
article saying this is perfectly constitutional
This post was edited on 1/26/17 at 5:54 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56108 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:53 am to
Saw on FOX this morning that Madeline Albright wants to register as a Muslim to protest Trump and his Muslim agenda.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41678 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:54 am to
Do we have a Muslim registry lol
Posted by public_enemy
Member since Feb 2015
4963 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:56 am to
The Jap ban during WWII was perfectly constitutional and even tried in the Supreme Court, where it was deemed constitutional. If you're going to talk out of your arse, please make sure you fact check, it's what made your party do damn stupid
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
56108 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:56 am to
quote:

Do we have a Muslim registry


She's hoping for one in order to carry out her "protest" I guess.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:57 am to
It would be glorious to have that train wreck going on in western Europe right here in the USA...rapes, murders, and the rest of the savagery. frick that shite! Unconstitutional?...how about common sense.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52133 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:57 am to
She has lost what degree of sanity she ever possessed. Needs a court appointed guardian.
Posted by russellvillehog
Member since Apr 2016
9746 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:57 am to
Any of you truthers want to dispute my proof? It is even from a super liberal media outlet.

No takers? I thought so. Mike Pence was wrong and playing the old politic game of virtue signaling. He now on board with trumps proposal.

He just isn't hiding he was wrong.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41678 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:58 am to
quote:

She's hoping for one in order to carry out her "protest" I guess.


Thsts what I figured

I mean maybe we could get FBI to watch her a little but they are swamped with the 50k refugees we took in
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 5:59 am to
does anyone in this thread know the official position/policy of Islam/Muslims on the rights of women?

it seems like hundreds of millions of Muslims, regardless of sect, are against basic human rights for women, not to mention the strict adherence to dogma that includes killing infidels and outsiders

I agree any kind of ban on Muslims appears to be unconstitutional, but did the founders envision a religion that oppresses the very human rights that the constitution was trying to protect?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
41678 posts
Posted on 1/26/17 at 6:00 am to
I guess in fairness maybe Muslim ban is okay?

It goes against who we are as a country so it is wrong

I am cool with what Trump is doing. I don't want another refugee
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