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re: Baseball Hall of Fame Announcement Thread- Bagwell, Raines, Pudge Elected to HOF
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:04 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:04 pm to Lester Earl
How many attempts will it take Beltran and Beltre to get in? I think both get in but not sure how fast they do.
What do you do with Bartolo Colon and Chase Utley?
What do you do with Bartolo Colon and Chase Utley?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:15 pm to sms151t
Big changes for next years HOF voting.
Derrek Goold from STL Post dispatch is BWA president, i believe, and he pushed very hard for transparency and for baseball writers and those in the business to be voting. Not NFL/NHL/NBA writers who haven't wrote or reported on baseball in 30 years.
They took the votes from these guys and put it into the hands of people who actually follow and report on Baseball. U had football guys voting on MVP,Cy young, HOF. Many from old sports magazines, who got BWA cards for just being a writer at the mag(sporting news,etc)
Also, after talking to other voters, he came to the conclusion, that these guys who are the morale police, are actually voting for people they like who were juicers, and making guys like bonds/clemens villains. They did not want their votes to be public, they wanted to be huge d-bags, and continue to vote like jackasses. Now, all votes will be made public, so either ur for juicers or ur not. There will be no in betweens, or they will get called out.
One guy, he said, was all uppity about the votes being public, and continued his rant about juicers, yet this guy voted for coke dealers, coke heads, wife beaters, etc.
I always laughed when local dude, Howard Balzer, who hadn't covered baseball since the 70's at the Sporting News, was talking about how he had to get his MLB MVP/Cy Young, and other ballots in. lol
Derrek Goold from STL Post dispatch is BWA president, i believe, and he pushed very hard for transparency and for baseball writers and those in the business to be voting. Not NFL/NHL/NBA writers who haven't wrote or reported on baseball in 30 years.
They took the votes from these guys and put it into the hands of people who actually follow and report on Baseball. U had football guys voting on MVP,Cy young, HOF. Many from old sports magazines, who got BWA cards for just being a writer at the mag(sporting news,etc)
Also, after talking to other voters, he came to the conclusion, that these guys who are the morale police, are actually voting for people they like who were juicers, and making guys like bonds/clemens villains. They did not want their votes to be public, they wanted to be huge d-bags, and continue to vote like jackasses. Now, all votes will be made public, so either ur for juicers or ur not. There will be no in betweens, or they will get called out.
One guy, he said, was all uppity about the votes being public, and continued his rant about juicers, yet this guy voted for coke dealers, coke heads, wife beaters, etc.
I always laughed when local dude, Howard Balzer, who hadn't covered baseball since the 70's at the Sporting News, was talking about how he had to get his MLB MVP/Cy Young, and other ballots in. lol
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:15 pm to sms151t
quote:
How many attempts will it take Beltran and Beltre to get in? I think both get in but not sure how fast they do.
What do you do with Bartolo Colon and Chase Utley?
I am curious to see what happens with Andruw Jones. And Omar Vizquel.
Jones was the best defensive OF I ever saw, until he got fat. Does 10 GGs in center get you in?
11 GGs at SS probably gets Vizquel in, considering some of the weak hitting SSs already in. Centerfield defense doesn't get the same respect (see Jim Edmonds).
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