re: Concealed carry for veterans

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I don't care if you do or don't.

The reason I mention it is because the instructors group on Facebook helps us self-police the instructing community. Some individuals have made errors in the past and have corrected the mistakes with feedback from other instructors.

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3. I assume you don't doubt that instructors are out there who shouldn't be teaching -- after all you're the guy who once posted " One thing I wished LSP did in regards to training their instructors is give a thorough explanation of the laws regarding carry and lethal force. All they did was say, "Oh, you have NRA Basic Pistol Certification. Cool. Here's your approval."


I'm sure there are instructors out there teaching either a bare bones NRA basic pistol class or just signing certificates. I won't deny that.

Are you trying to imply that I'm teaching wrongful information because of that statement? I had to spend a lot more personal time researching the lethal force laws without having a starting point. I definitely think LSP can improve on that.

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4. If you want to publicly list names, have at it.


I see what you did there.

I get it - you don't like me. But my classes do not teach anything that contradicts Louisiana lethal force law.

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Dear Mr. Bapple:

1. I don't make a habit on engaging in internet debates. especially with strangers. So I'm gonna respond to the post I quoted above, and then you or anyone else who has been offended can say or do whatever they wish.

2. I readily acknowledge that I, as a redneck, lack the ability to communicate clearly. So I'll try to put this in words you can follow. You can just read the words. You don't need to read between the lines. You don't need to make inferences.

3. Regarding the Facebook question and your comment "The reason I mention it is because the instructors group on Facebook helps us self-police the instructing community:" I apologize but there's no nice way to say that "self-policing the instructing community" is a poor approach to solving problems. If I know of a problem with an instructor, I will contact the people who can solve it. Exchanging complaints on Facebook might work - my approach has worked, and I'm pretty confident it will continue to.

4. Your statement ("Are you trying to imply that I'm teaching wrongful information because of that statement? I had to spend a lot more personal time researching the lethal force laws without having a starting point. I definitely think LSP can improve on that".) is very disingenuous. Nobody said you are teaching incorrect info -- but back when the original thread was posted, you posted opinions that were clearly at variance with LRS.

You seemed appreciative back then when I corrected you. At least that's how I would construe your comments when posted: "Good to know. Post edited. I guess my statement was a half-truth in that it isn't necessarily backed by law but there are still consequences. Thanks for the clarification."

I presume that you didn't teach any of that to students. In fact, at the time you acknowledged that you had not trained more than a handful of people - total. I hope and presume you learned all that and a lot more before you actually began teaching CCW class on a regular basis (assuming you're doing so).

Which brings me to my last point:

5. You posted: "I get it - you don't like me."

Dude - ignoring for a minute that your comment is childish whining, I don't even know you. I have never met you (although I'd like to).

I have met your dad -- shot clays with him while chatting for an hour. He seemed to be a very nice fellow, and (no pun intended) the apple probably didn't fall too far from the tree. But you really strike me as insecure. And a bit irrational.

You're the guy who calls people insulting names on a public forum, and then whines, "You don't like me." (I might be mistaken but I think it was you who called a fellow member "the resident douche" on this board within the past 48 hours). Ignoring the fact that it violates the Board's CoC, it apparently leads you to assume that I would react by disliking you.

Without (hopefully) sounding overly arrogant, my world is a lot broader than internet chat rooms. I don't know you, I don't like or dislike you. And I really try to avoid reacting to people. (I guess you can call this reply a "reaction") I certainly don't decide whom I "like" or whom I "dislike" based on internet posts.

Some days you seem like the proverbial "nice guy" (which I suspect you are), and other days you whine that people don't like you and call them a douche. I may or may not fit your definition of a douche. I certainly wouldn't argue with a label of curmudgeon. The older I get the less gladly I suffer fools. (NOTICE: I didn't say you're a fool. I'm referring to life in general). But if that bothers you, and you want everyone to post in a "little miss sunshine" manner, with zero sarcasm or satire, I'm sorry.

I get it that you are an NRA Basic Pistol Instructor -- you and me about 20,000 other people. Actually I have no idea how many -- I do know it's an incredibly low bar that requires nothing more than spending between 1.5 and two days in a classroom. But having that certificate does nothing to increase the validity of my opinions (or yours) and does nothing enhance the value of comments I (or you) might post) here.

If you're happy with your Facebook policing, I hope you continue. If you're teaching sound doctrine (and I assume you probably are), I hope you keep teaching. If I were to determine for a fact that you're teaching sound doctrine, I'd add you to the very short list of people to whom I refer students who can't fit into my classes. If I were to determine you're teaching "heretical" material, I'd first contact you - and if that didn't work I'd contact the folks who regulate instructors.

If any of the foregoing offends you (which isn't my intent), I guess you can chalk it up to my being a curmudgeon (or whatever term you prefer).

If you really want to know how big of a jerk I am (or "douche," to use your eloquent term) talk to the folks who have taken my class. I'm sure you'll find a few with negative things to say (like Broke -- who thought it was so good he recommended it to his wife, but changed his tune when he didn't get to attend a second time at no charge). There are well over 1000 people who have taken my class (many of who took their initial classes from other instructors). After spending 9 hours in a classroom, these folks probably have a pretty good idea of my personality. (This approach isn't valid if you talk to my wife -- don't believe a word she says ).

My phone number is 225-766-4422. My address is 10275 Siegen Lane. I will be happy to address any other complaints or issues you have by phone or in person -- clearly too much gets "lost in the translation" when posting on gun forums.