I always thought of Fox as the more "minority" channel. When they first started they had Arsenio and In Living Color. Even with married with children that was aimed at a more white trash/lower income white audience. Wasn't Martin on Fox as well?

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Posted by LsuNav

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Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:31 pm to goldennugget

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I work in television and used to work at a FOX Affliate in a market that was only 3% black. We had inventory in the Monday Night 8p-9p block on FOX we could not sell because Empire did 0 ratings in our market. When I said suffer I said it was our station suffering since we got no money for that inventory. We could not sell it.

The only reason to post this crap is to start a fight. I grew up in rural Louisiana and we watched Porter Waggoner, Hee_Haw and the Lawrence Welk so on Saturday nights not once did anyone in my family complain that we had to watch a bunch of shows with no black people on them.

Why would Fox TV cater to the "urban" audience you lament about if it didn't make them money? I'm not a fan of shows that reinforce black stereotypes so I don't watch Empire. On the other hand, if you can't watch a show simply because the people are brown you have a serious problem.

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Posted by LsuNav

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Member since Mar 2008

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Posted on 12/15/16 at 3:43 pm to Jack Ruby

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Seems like an extreme panic move...ESPN is hemmorhaging subscribers because of it too...I was a loyal PTI viewer for 15 yrs but I haven't watched an episode for 3 months now...never will again and I never watch 1 minute of anything ESPN broadcasts now except the last 20 minutes of college game day and Live events.

ESPN has been producing crap for years. You can complain that they hire loud black jocks when they use to hire loud white jocks. Admittedly Jamelle Hill is particularly awful but is Max Kellerman any better? Though they have moved on, Skip and Cowherd were both awful blowhards. Rusillo and Kanell are awful as well.

Wethere are simply too many sports shows with any sports on them so the talent pool is diluted. I'd rather watch team handball than listen to any of the present crop at ESPN. Same goes for the radio programming.

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Posted by Dr RC

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Member since Aug 2011

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Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:08 pm to Jack Ruby

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Some of these posts are incredible. The op was really speaking more about non white shows flopping in white markets and how FOX doesn't seem to care.

It's just marketing, it's the truth, it has nothing to do with anyone being "racist", it's just the truth and knowing your customer base and not driving away ratings or patrons.

The thread title is

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"When did FOX become BET all of a sudden?"

In the OP is

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Ever since Empire succeeded for them its been a non stop stream of new shows based around blacks.

Empire
Rosewood
Minority Report
Stars
Pitch
Shots Fired

Of those shows listed the only two that are mainly black casts are the two music based shows Empire and Star.

Is Rosewood a black centric shows just b/c Morris Chestnut is the main lead even though his cop partner is Hispanic and a lot of the minor cast is white? preview

Is Pitch a black centric show just b/c the female pitcher is black even though her love interest is Mark Paul Gosselar and plays on a baseball team which NO shite SHERLOCK is multi ethnic? Is it b/c we see her flashbacks w/her father and bits with her sister? LINK

Minority Report was a black show are you fricking kidding me? Again, is this b/c there was a black person as one of the main leads even most of the multi ethnic cast is white? preview

Shots Fired has Helen Hunt and Richard Dreyfuss in the main cast but it's a black show b/c two black people are looking to a black cop killing a white kid? preview

Now let's look at FOX's current programming and when each show started.

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Animated series

The Simpsons (1989)
Family Guy (1999)
Bob's Burgers (2011)
Son of Zorn (2016)

Dramas

Bones (2005)
Sleepy Hollow (2013)
Gotham (2014)
Empire (2015)
Wayward Pines (2015)
Rosewood (2015)
Scream Queens (2015)
Lucifer (2016)
The Exorcist (2016)
Pitch (2016)
Lethal Weapon (2016)

Comedies

New Girl (2011)
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (2013)
The Last Man on Earth (2015)

Reality / non-scripted

Hell's Kitchen (2005)
So You Think You Can Dance (2005)
MasterChef (2010)
Hotel Hell (2012)
MasterChef Junior (2013)
Home Free (2015)
American Grit (2016)

Awards shows / beauty pageants

Teen Choice Awards (1999)
American Country Awards (2010)
Miss Universe (2015)
Miss USA (2016)

Now let's look at its future programming

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Dramas

24: Legacy (February 5, 2017) preview
93 Til Infinity (TBA)
A.P.B. (February 6, 2017) preview
The Building (TBA)
Orville (2017) (scifi show starring Seth MacFarlane , Adrianne Palicki, and Scott Gimes)
The Passage (TBA)
Prison Break (2017) LINK
Shots Fired (2017)
Star (December 14, 2016)

Comedies

Making History (2017) preview
The Mick (January 3, 2017) preview
Pigeon (TBA)
Untitled Superhero Comedy (TBA)
Untitled Wrestling Comedy (TBA)

Reality / Non-scripted

The F Word (2017) (a Gordon Ramsey show)

Animated

Eleven Little Indians
Untitled Alex Hirsch Project

So... the channel that has shows like New Girl, Bones, The Exorcist, Scream Queens, Lucifer, The Simpsons, Family Guy, Bob's Burgers, Brooklyn 99, Gotham, Son of Zorn, Last Man on Earth, multiple Gordon Ramsey shows, two beauty pageants,the Country Music Awards, the Teen Choice Awards and will soon air shows starring Adam Pally, Kaitlin Olsen, and Seth MacFarlane is a network that has become BET?

You don't see why people think there is a racial element to Goldie's post? Really?

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Posted by CGSC Lobotomy

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Posted on 12/15/16 at 5:14 pm to goldennugget

Minority Report was a bad show because it was a bad show, period.

It tried to follow a movie that was released 14 years ago...almost 14 years after the movie took place.

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