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re: Why did Russia want Trump to win?!?!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
I thought Trump supporters were aware of negotiation tactics?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:49 pm to VOLhalla
To be fair to Hillary, we don't know if a No Fly Zone was her public or private position
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:52 pm to VOLhalla
Right, she did lie when she said she was not going to use the No Fly Zone to impose regime change in Lybia.
A bayonet up the arse later...
A bayonet up the arse later...
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:52 pm to joshnorris14
quote:Actually we know her public position she stated it, we don't know her private not for the little people position.
we don't know if a No Fly Zone was her public or private position
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:53 pm to VOLhalla
quote:Lol, it was political posturing. There was nothing diplomatic about it. Only an idiot would think that because everyone with a brain, including the Russians and Syrians and ISIS, knew that Hillary would not set up a no fly zone over Syria. I mean she would have claimed to have set one up but it would have been a complete lie because its impossible to set up a meaningful no fly zone over Syria unless you're gonna shoot down Russian jets. People like you would have bought that lie hook, line and sinker though.
It was diplomatic posturing.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:54 pm to Eurocat
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Never trust Russia about anything. If they say black, know the truth is white.
Wow. Just wow.
I can't even right now.
I'm so ashamed of the hate,broad brush generalizations and xenophobia on full display by some leftists these days!
I'm literally shaking!
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:56 pm to Jbird
She would've used the threat of a US no-fly zone to reduce Syrian/Russian use of aircraft against opposition. If you want to calm that lying go for it.
She only deserves some credit for the removal of a violent dictator in Libya.
She only deserves some credit for the removal of a violent dictator in Libya.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:59 pm to VOLhalla
quote:Russia would have laughed her pantsuit off the international stage at that threat.
She would've used the threat of a US no-fly zone to reduce Syrian/Russian use of aircraft against opposition
So you believed the red line Barack threatened didn't you?
quote:Not what she claimed.
She only deserves some credit for the removal of a violent dictator in Libya.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 9:59 pm to VOLhalla
quote:I remember last time Hillary negotiated with Russia. Put in gen her over and buttfricked her on the world stage and got her to cancel the missile defense shield. Then she started a war in Libya, killing tens of thousands and displacing millions, for the sole purpose of giving her a foreign policy "win" to tout during the election. And she even fricked that up. Hillary is a horrible diplomat and has zero real understanding of world affairs. She knows buzzwords and the names but her superficial knowledge and understanding ends there.
I thought Trump supporters were aware of negotiation tactics?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:00 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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mean she would have claimed to have set one up but it would have been a complete lie because its impossible to set up a meaningful no fly zone over Syria unless you're gonna shoot down Russian jets
Or the US would've simply challenged Russia's no fly zone and forced them to pull the trigger and shoot at US aircraft. When Russia balks they negotiate to respect each other's no fly zones or ignore both.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:02 pm to VOLhalla
quote:LOL she deserves all of the credit for creating that shitshow and leaving the people of Libya in a worse position than they ever were Qaddafi.
She only deserves some credit for the removal of a violent dictator in Libya.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:02 pm to VOLhalla
quote:I flew over Syria, you are full of shite.
Or the US would've simply challenged Russia's no fly zone and forced them to pull the trigger and shoot at US aircraft. When Russia balks they negotiate to respect each other's no fly zones or ignore both.
Also flew over Libya.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:03 pm to VOLhalla
quote:I'm sorry did she say she was going to challenge Russia's no fly zone?
Or the US would've simply challenged Russia's no fly zone and forced them to pull the trigger and shoot at US aircraft. When Russia balks they negotiate to respect each other's no fly zones or ignore both.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:07 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
they didn't
they wanted Hilldawg
they were using reverse psychology & it backfired on them
Kremlin fricked
they wanted Hilldawg
they were using reverse psychology & it backfired on them
Kremlin fricked
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:07 pm to Jbird
You arent aware of the Russian no-fly zone? Why do you think Russia has installed multiple anti-aircraft defense systems in Syria when they are fighting an insurgency?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:11 pm to VOLhalla
quote:The only aircraft operating over Syria are Syrian, Russian and NATO (including U.S.) assets. Are you suggesting the S-300 SAMS are something Hillary would trifle with?
You arent aware of the Russian no-fly zone? Why do you think Russia has installed multiple anti-aircraft defense systems in Syria when they are fighting an insurgency?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:16 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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This is an honest question.
I just can't believe Russia wants America to be great again.
I love how these moron, hypocrites on the left blabbed on for years about how great it would be to have a president who could get along with other countries, who could keep us out of unnecessary wars, blah, blah. And now they bitch and moan and complain about a president who seeks cooperation and mutual understanding with one of the most powerful military powers in the world.
They'd prefer that we saber rattle and promote conflict with a state that doesn't threaten our fundamental interests whatsoever. But if Obama and Hillary want to initiate a "reset" with them, then they are all for it!
The better question is this, Hugo. Why don't you tell us why you think it is best that the United States should take a hostile position towards Russia. Tell us what Russia is doing that is so vitally dangerous to the security of the United States and our national interests that you believe we should confront them in Syria and elsewhere and escalate tensions with one of the world's preeminent military powers. A nation that is on the complete opposite side of the fricking globe.
Rather than asking why Russia would be inclined to support an American leader that extends a hand of mutual cooperation, reciprocity, and understanding between one another, which of course requires merely the most minuscule degrees of common sense, why don't you ask yourself why on Earth the United States should pursue a policy of hostility towards a Russian state that poses no fundamental threat to American national interests. And ask yourself why on Earth it makes sense for the United States to interject itself in the internal affairs of the Syrian state and prioritizes the deposing of a secular leader and potential conflict with Russia in that region over our mutual interests in combating Islamic extremists who threaten the stability of the entire region and lash out at all of Western Civilization and any moderate forces in the Arab world.
Perhaps answer those basic questions first and present us with your justification and then maybe we can have a conversation on why Russia may be interested in American leaders who don't use Russia as an election issue to drum up irrational fears to promote idiotic regime change in a region where our policies of regime change have been absolute and utter failures.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:21 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
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Well said comrade.
Even more stupidity and ignorance from the left. When they have no sensible argument they try to equate Russia with the Soviet Union. Keep embarrassing yourselves.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:30 pm to ChewyDante
Okay, you don't see any potential danger in a significantly stronger Russia?
Right now they aren't a significant threat because the West has been successfully containing them to a certain degree. Russia and China also try to contain the United States economic hegemony. It's basic geopolitical balance of power.
Sure working with Russia for common interests is a good idea but let's not forget who we're dealing with. Putin is a kind of a facist thug, not the type you really want to cozy up to.
Right now they aren't a significant threat because the West has been successfully containing them to a certain degree. Russia and China also try to contain the United States economic hegemony. It's basic geopolitical balance of power.
Sure working with Russia for common interests is a good idea but let's not forget who we're dealing with. Putin is a kind of a facist thug, not the type you really want to cozy up to.
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